Why do you insist that Nostr’s community is a problem? We aren’t a platform like the other things you mentioned. We are a community of builders, not doomers or scammers. It’s taking more time to grow because we don’t have a marketing department or a corporate board. We’re here for the long haul. Most people simply haven’t figured out why they need it yet.
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It's not a problem if you see Nostr as essentially the current community. Or as an example of a community that has coded itself. Then it's a success. It just depends how you see Nostr.
The slow growth (now shrinkage) isn't due to the lack of a marketing department or corporate board. It's due to people coming in, going "not for me" and leaving, never to return. All a marketing department would do is increase the volume of people coming in, going "not for me" and leaving, never to return.
The answer I think is a Nostr 2.0.
The point about people coming and not staying cause they see the bitcoiners and whatever else might be true for folks just wandering in. I just think those people just prefer the centralized social media alternatives since they are well established and have a huge amount of content.
It's a bit different if an entire community tries to move to a platform/protocol though. Like many FOSS users moving over to Mastodon from Twitter and to Matrix from Discord in order to follow their "leaders" and peers. I would guess that those bring the huge numbers and cause people to stay.
Whatever, I have no plans to leave. I don’t want to talk to most of those people anyway.
I think most do see bitcoiners, and think this is a bitcoin group, and that's it. No more complicated then that. Just someone told them try nostr out (you can own your account, etc.), they came, found out it's all bitcoiners, they don't care much about bitcion, so they left. That simple.
If someone told me to try out a social network that "lets you own your account", and I jumped in to check it out, and all I saw it was all Warhammer 40,000 people posting Warhammer 40,000 things, I'd be like 'well I guess this is a Warhammer 40,000 club', and I'd jump out.
I don't think big picture stuff like how this compares to the centralised experience even has time to enter the picture. People are out before they've even kicked a single tire.
I think I'm 50% in agreement. Not sure of the magic formula for retaining that type of person who comes for sovereignty and leaves cause Bitcoin. Is the answer corporate management, marketing, removal of zaps from a solid client?
Still unclear how organic diversity is cultivated other than having a "killer app".
I'm pretty convinced organic diversity is cultivated by having organic diversity from close to the start of the protocol. Not by a killer app, or by centralised servers, but by raw timing.
Which means the best option might be a full restart.
