26 devs have now voiced their opinion for covenant upgrades to bitcoin.
So far CTV is the only op code to not have any one left evaluating it which makes sense since it's the most mature. CTV also has the least amount of "No"s without any "Evaluating"s.
If you're a bitcoin developer and haven't voiced your opinion yet we'd really appreciate it so the community can be as informed as possible.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support
Soon we'll be moving on to additional stake holders.
Didn’t realize op cat was so popular wow
CTV is still the only covenant proposal that I haven't heard any compelling arguments against outside of "Bitcoin doesn't need it" or "it doesn't enable enough new things"
Hope we will see more rationales, especially for the "no" selections. IMHO, rationales are more interesting than plain statements.
I still haven’t gotten an answer on this - has CTV been merged in testnet? Anybody know? nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft nostr:npub12rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sf485vg nostr:npub16dhgpql60vmd4mnydjut87vla23a38j689jssaqlqqlzrtqtd0kqex0nkq nostr:npub1utx00neqgqln72j22kej3ux7803c2k986henvvha4thuwfkper4s7r50e8
Yes, all of LNhance's opcodes including CTV currently exist on mutnitynet and inquisition.
Thank you for the reply. I appreciate what’s going into this decision and the reviews.
How long has CTV been merged? I’m a non technical but I would love for anything in consideration for mainnet Bitcoin to be stress tested for a good while. The stakes are high.
CTV has been merged to Signet and MutnityNet for years now.
Correction: The signet branch has been completed since 2020 but to date it has only been merged on mutnitynet/inquisition, not signet which is the official bitcoin core test net.
Here's the link to CTV on signet: https://github.com/JeremyRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet
No, it is not merged on testnet, because testnet runs Bitcoin Core.
It was only merged on Inquisition, which is a Core fork ran by AJ Towns that powers the "official" signet. APO was/is also merged and operative there, as well as OP_CAT, see https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ctv-apo-cat-activity-on-signet/1257/2
Yah here's the link to the branch that never got merged to signet yet https://github.com/JeremyRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet
What's being upgraded exactly? And why
Each one has a link to the BIP. Reading that is probably the best place to start to learn about them.
Each one of these proposals have a BIP that you can read. You can see all the features each one offers at https://utxos.org/alternatives
Genuine question, not sarcasm, why wasn’t something like this done sooner? Did folks just want to give people plenty of time to digest all options? A poll just seems so obvious it feels weird it took this long. An informal ongoing open soft poll feels like a great way to begin to gauge rough consensus.
Jeremy tried to get CTV activated in 2022 but people didn't agree with the activation method, everyone liked CTV but not the "speedy trial" activation by miners. This isn't a poll it's more of a survey and there was something like this before at https://utxos.org/signals but that was only for CTV.
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The good thing is that you can start using it with your client whenever you want.
Bro. Need you to hop on a video and maybe with another person to explain to my dumb ass the differences between some of the popular ones. Some of the things you and others did prior to 2017.
Just saying.. no one is doing it right now
There are a ton of podcasts about covenants.
See reardencode's podcast on why bitcoin needs covenants here:
See reardencode's latest presentation on covenants and why they matter: https://youtu.be/wRYaV1dmkeY
See Rob Hamilton's explanation on this podcast here: https://youtu.be/wRYaV1dmkeY
See Andrew Poelstra's explanation of covenants and CTV/TXHASH here https://youtu.be/3gsECZrzijA
See Niftynei's latest explanation on covenants here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0C7CH-PVaU&t=530s&pp=ygUSbmlmdHluZWkgY292ZW5hbnRz
See Mechanic's recent CTV podcast here:
Accidentally double linked a video, but here's a few more, they're everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgPA-PBROWs&pp=ygULcmVhcmRlbmNvZGU%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHaXnJFBt90&pp=ygULcmVhcmRlbmNvZGU%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUr6gpMm9tk&pp=ygULcmVhcmRlbmNvZGU%3D
Ok I know all these folks. Thanks!
I have started with reardencode on SLP.
And have previously listened to nostr:npub1wnlu28xrq9gv77dkevck6ws4euej4v568rlvn66gf2c428tdrptqq3n3wr but will refresh listen.
And will check the others soon after digesting the above.
