We are clearly of different worlds.

And with that I acknowledge that every culture is different.

But best believe, if my son ever had friends like that, I’d put an end to that friendship.

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Kill his friends?

It’s interesting how your mind went to that as a potential meaning.

šŸ˜„ how do you put an end to other people’s friendship?

Exactly…you seem to think that murder is the only option. So simply having a talk to your son doesn’t come to mind?

No, that’s a reflection of your thoughts. You’re taking words too literally.

Ok. I thought the words ā€œkill his friendsā€ meant murder apologies. I wasn’t aware there was another meaning. Sorry, my bad

This is where I think when you have true friends, you hear what they mean, not what they say.

I’m just saying, friends can roast each other and chat shit, but if there’s a potential for someone to genuinely be struggling with something; a friend should be able to notice the signs and be serious and not act like an asshole. Ppl may not have the confidence to come out that they are struggling with something, and to have their close friends dismiss them may literally have the opposite of what you think.

I don’t disagree. Most folks don’t think about the possibility of suicide when their friends are having a hard time. Acknowledging it head on is actually a hard thing to do. Avoiding it is actually going to be a disservice. If this guy is my true friend, and I know he means well. What he’s actually saying to me is he’s not going to like me very much if I actually kill myself. Outside looking in, it may be hard to understand.

You’re right, it is hard to understand. I guess this is where cultures differ. Maybe it’s normal is such cultures to be like this. But I think you would be mistaken to think this is a universal behaviour across the world.

I am not assuming any universality, I understand humor is completely dependent on cultural contexts. The universality part of this is: what humor can do, it takes you outside of yourself, it has the ability to talk about hard things in very direct ways. Imagine the words that may follow this conversation: ā€œBro, let’s go grab a drink and talk.ā€

Didn’t seem like this was where the conversation in the video was heading. But acknowledged, everyone and every culture is different

Feelings of isolation and loss of control that you cannot escape are the beginning of suicidal ideation.

As a young man when I could not take my parents constant attempts to control my interactions to only people they approved of, the guys who talked to me like that were actually there for me and helped me get out and build a new life. Turns out actions mean a lot more than words and a joke is just a joke.

It wasn't the best life, but it was better and happier than what I had under thumb with my every interaction controlled.

Could have been better if my parents hadn't done the exact wrong thing and tried to isolate me more. Then I could have stayed home instead of leaving as soon as it was legal and not talking to them for a decade.

It’s absolutely fascinating the many attempts in this thread to justify and make excuses for disgusting behaviour.

The fact is, whatever anecdotal experience you’ve had, the behaviour in the above video is not under the definition of ā€œgood behaviourā€. At lease not universal so.