I have no opinion about MicroStrategy but I’m interested in learning about its strategy and what will happen when price goes down.

Can somebody give me a video or article that explains it in understandable language?

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As long as you have data to think btc will rise over time, MSTR will as well. Don't overthink it.

What happens when btc drops 85%

It won't drop as much with each successive cycle. Liquidity is greater, BUT if so, maybe it drops too. Again, if you hodl BTC 4 years minimum because you know it's going up, MSTR will return to highs as well.

In theory...

price up MicroStrategy good!

price down, MicroStategy still good unless it hits the DCA'ed liquidation point.

price down more, MicroStrategy dead.

Also, price must be high enough when the senior notes are due or stock will take a major hit.

Hmm pretty simple lol

easy to buy Bitcoin on borrowed money to buy more and more by using previous buys as collateral to borrow more money. Thing will get interesting when those senior notes have to be settled.

Agreed, and when a bear market with -85% hits

Unlikely with long term allocations but hey I’m not leveraging so more cheap sats

IF we get an 85er this cycle then Michael would be still in the green with the current DCA of MS's stack. I think as long as Bitcoin stays above 69k the firm will be alright as long as they can settle those senior notes without having to sell all their coins.

In my mind going below 69k isn’t unrealistic haha

But yeah I understand it. But I also think IF something extremely bad happen it will push back Bitcoin adoption a few years as Saylor is obliged to sell some corn

No?

I agree. I doubt that we'll see sub 69k again when the bear market hits. Expected 18k last cycle because it was the previous high. 15k came at a surprise but it didn't last long and we went straight back to the 108k range. By that logic and assuming that we will ever see a ~85% bear market pullback, the firm should be fine. "should"

* "straight back to the 18k range" <- this is why we need edits lol

But we’ve never had massive institutional long term allocation before. This will be interesting to see how a post parabola plays out

Alright thanks bro! Very helpful

to add, he was smart with the due dates on those notes. I think most are due in two cycles from now.

Hm okay I see

Oh well then, let’s sell all our sats and go 10x long on MSTR 😂

Two cycles is the key

I wouldn’t know Sir, I just stay humble and Stack sats

Same, I’m actually a low IQ pleb who’s outperforming every single hedge fund manager 😂

We do good boss 🤙

I've owned for a long time. Are you asking what happens if they are forced to liquidate? When BTC went down to 15k they were trading slightly below the value of the treasury. Currently they are about 4x treasury (rough math). All of the convertible debt contracts are long term, so liquidation risk is pretty low.

Explain me how liquidation risk is low

What happens if BTC drops -85% in 2026?

He only has to liquidate if individual contracts are calling the debt. The contacts are lattered.

Alright understood

The debt is issued as converts, if they call the debt, they receive equity shares, not cash.

I'm not saying the risk is 0, but, we've seen them deal with aggressive draw downs already, and they manage them quite well. It probably has to do with saylor's relationship with the other side of the trade and liquidity.

Yes but they weren’t this aggressive in 2022-2023

Fair. I wonder if the terms are disclosed in the 10k.

The liquidation risk is low because he has paid off all the debt he owed. All the new debt being issued are converts, meaning it is paid off in equity.

Once the converts mature, new shares are issued, so the risk isn’t one of liquidation, but rather dilution.

The only real risk is that the price of MSTR goes down, there isn’t a real risk that he becomes a forced seller of bitcoin, unless there is some operational cost that can’t be covered but the overhead is ridiculously low for the values he’s managing.

Basically all of the risk is on the individuals buying the converts as the coupon is 0 and the reward is equity.

Thank you

long dated MSTR options are this century's

"Go West, young man"

You could strike it rich or go bust like the 49rs

Even buying small amount will be pretty crazy, if MSTR continues its insane trajectory 🙉. wish I could rewind time to bear market and load up on some MSTR. 😭

Nah I don’t. The reason I own Bitcoin is for more sophisticated than wanting to own a stock that goes up in fiat value

Yeah its a stock at the end of the day. Not even a claim on Bitcoin. Atleast Bitcoin ETF has that. Nothing is as good as self custody Bitcoin 👍

I just have it because it's in a retirement account that I'm supposed to have.

If I think it's 50/50 chance that stock market survives and we don't have to relocate to another country/planet.

So I allow myself 50/50 in old and new system. And the 50% in the old system is in an account I was supposed to have anyway for retirement.

I was thinking about this earlier how every stock is a gamble at the end of the day

Even choosing Bitcoin over gold or property is a sort of gamble.

Call options on Microstrategy is adding unnecessary risk reward on the gamble.

I drive an old car and frequently take the bus so somewhere along the line I feel like I can afford a sleek fast call option or 2.

But ultimately like Mr. Toad and his fast cars, it might result in a wild ride, a wrecked portfolio and dressing up as a "washer woman" to sneak on the train to get back home.

I'm guessing the lesson of this story is, if you look like you work somewhere, no one will mind you being there. I should probably get some life skills like house keeping so I can sneak into hotels. If it all goes to pot.

Solid points

Like Mr Toad, I do love my fast cars, I drive a Z4E85 (cost me 2k...shhhh don't tell anyone). I don't think I will ever trade it in for a Lambo, I like to get all the benefits without the down sides. Driving a Lambo has its down sides. 🙃

So all I need now is a good variety of uniforms and I'm all set 🙊.

Yeah having balance is important ⚖️ 💯

You must be a minimalist to fit your travel stuff into a 2 seater!

You be surprised, it's a decent sized boot, can squeeze a big suitcase or 2 small cases. Minimalist suits me perfectly. Keeps me grounded. 👌

Keeps your potential partner grounded too 😀 and no pet! Unless it's small

Ive always wanted a dog, but a pet is hard if travelling around, maybe once I've picked a location outside of UK. Currently looking at different countries to set up a new home in.

As for a partner, I would need to find a girl that doesn't need too much space for shoes, all my past girlfriends have been shoe crazy! 👠👠👠 Women 🤷‍♂️

I'm getting serious fomo to buy MSTR.

Not without risks. Im still looking into it too.

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