I fucking hate the amethyst default banner image, ai ostrich slop with bitcoin hats 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Might actually ditch amethyst just for that tbh. Jumble.social pwa might be the way to go
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I actually thought they were quite cute 🥹
I can't take it any more
In amethyst are the pics taking forever to load?
But they're such cuties 🥹 you can always use your own banner though and problem solved 😂
I know that, but this is the sort of crap that turns people off.
Firstly it's AI slop, secondly it's bitcoin ai slop.
Imagine how many people that alienates lol.
Yes that's a fair point. I just like cute animal drawings - they can have no hat I wouldn't care 😂 but I get it though, it wasn't like that before 🤔
Jumble is quite good
Unfortunately jumble as a PWA doesn't have settings that amethyst has like not auto download media when on mobile data. That's the only thing keeping me from deleting amethyst tbh lol. Over reaction sure lolol but I simply can't support the slop:):):)
#Amethyst has DMs and public messages. So, it works well as a native chat app. Those are two kinds where outboxes really shine.
I think the outbox model is a bit much for kind 1, if you already have good proxy relays.
I also think that relays getting smarter has greatly reduced the need to broadcast all over the place, as lots of relays stream in and out from other relays.
If you write a public message or an article to TheForest 🌲, for example, it ends up on TheCitadel 🛡️.
And on damus, primal, lol, freelay, band, lumina, wheat, aggr.nostr.land and mom. And lots of other relays stream in from those relays... It's like a mesh.
The relays I mentioned are the ones we explicitly and purposefully stream to, but your events actually end up on hundreds of relays, within a few minutes.
Anyone running #Citrine 🍋, Orly 🦉, or some other aggregator, will pull events in, from there. Because most relays are now spidering, streaming, syncing, fetching, you no longer have the **CAN ANYONE SEE ME?** effect.
Yes, we can see you, now. 😂
I am willing to sacrifice all of this to never see that banner AI slop again lol
I use amethyst pretty exclusively and I don't know which image you're referring to. 😅
Look at your profile. The banner pic at the top of the page.
This is the new amethyst default banner when you haven't changed it.
Bitcoin slop for bitcointwitter
I honestly despair.
Ah... While I can't really throw stones (my avatar is literally an AI generated dog...), I see what you mean. Honestly preferred the old version.
Might not be seeing it because I haven't updated in a little bit.
That is bad. 🤢
Wow that’s pretty… special.
So like dunce hats?
Devs shouldn't be making aesthetic decisions lol
At least you know the operation is just one dude in a basement somewhere…
It would literally be better as grey with the words 'default' in comic sans
But really, anyone seeing that will think not only this but ah so this is just for bitcoin slop enjoyers, nothing for me here. Delete app.
It's pretty stupid.
Yes I know it's not that serious lol
It’s a fair point tho… considering, whether you agree or not, there’s a large group of people that are both anti AI and anti btc. Surely the selling point should at least be partly that this is a free and open protocol.
We’ll never get past 50 users at this rate...
Mind you, I’m only here because I haven’t found a social media any smaller yet.
This seems like a form of elder abuse. How can anyone onboard their grandma to nostr with this shit
Submit a better one in a PR lol
NostrBros ruin everything
Wut lol :haha:
I honestly think devs don't want new users.
Well, they only want new users called hodl21oshi
I'll share my dystopia wasteland shopping cart banner with you.
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jumble so good
Going jumble-only lol
It's actually pretty nice as a PWA
Needs mobile data settings on media loading, but that's it
nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl not sure that's possible but I thought I'd tag you anyway lol
I'll miss you! Oh wait, this is Nostr. 😉
Jumble PWA is awesome.
Nothing else comes close, especially native lol.
Recado para @npub18qhe55gump3d8ff2xzugpeaxkq6gfc498hr6at2jlsert0h9qkvqquqmve e nostr:npub17natddjkmse4z8frh7ysynwtzanzmvs9d76c5r53546wsnzs25gqfdeqey
Eu concordo que ele é ótimo... No PC. No celular deixa muito a desejar, principalmente na aba de notificações.
As barras superior e inferior deveriam ficar ocultas quando rolar a tela e o botão de fazer uma postagem, seria melhor se fosse um círculo flutuante, assim como no Amethyst. 
Sim, somente a barra do topo fica oculta quando rola o feed. Sobre o botão de postar ser na parte inferior, concordo com você.
Talvez o nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl adicione uma opção para ocultar ou mostrar de forma permanente as barras superior e inferior e também mudar a posição do botão de postar para a parte inferior.
I’d rather not prioritize the posting feature on mobile for now, since Jumble’s editor isn’t very good yet.
Ah ok, we need to fix the problems we have using Futo keyboard for example.
cc nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6
PWA sucks. Forced updates, no decentralisation, reliant on a browser to use, just a patch for those who didn't create an APK.
Jumble is a great client, and indeed the PWA is very good, but it's not ideal. I prefer to use it on the PC rather than on my phone as a nice client, but not a definitive one.
What do you think nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl ? PWA sucks?
There are plenty of choices, and everyone can pick what they like. I also mostly just use Jumble on desktop, haha.
But I don’t really see the points you listed as disadvantages of PWAs:
- Forced updates mean an early client can quickly fix bugs and ship features. You might be worried about “malicious” updates, but does an APK really solve that? How many people actually review Amethyst’s source code, and even if they do, how many compile it themselves?
- Jumble is a purely static site and could even be deployed directly on nostr via https://nsite.run/ . If needed, I’m sure someone would mirror it, it’s open source after all. Isn’t that actually more decentralized than an APK?
- Depending on the browser means Jumble runs anywhere a browser exists. An APK, in contrast, depends on Android and doesn’t easily run elsewhere.
Zapstore signing is something that’s better in apk’s. PWAs rely on SSL certs that live on CDN or server: easier to hack when the code itself is not signed.
It's easy to wrap browser apps with tauri btw. Iris is on Zapstore, and I might try my luck with play store and ios app store one day. Why not have both options. I've grown a bit weary of cloudflare.
The real security is in keeping your keys safe and not signing events blindly, haha. When I use Jumble, every event (except AUTH) asks for my consent before it’s signed. I know that with this configuration, many apps become almost unusable.
Yes, many apps assume that as soon they detect an extension the sign is immediate, and miserably fall with some sort of timeout if the user take some seconds to approve (or didn't approve at all).