I heard this line a lot a couple years ago while learning about lightning and how to run a node. I was surprised to still hear it last year, because when you actually spend time understanding lightning it becomes perfectly clear why it will continue to grow and succeed. Now I don’t hear it all because I’m here on Nostr surrounded by people who use lightning every day ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Lightning or WoS? 🤔
I don’t understand the question
Most people here are using WoS and that’s just moving numbers around in their database.
Are most people using WoS? Are there metrics comparing wallet usage on Nostr? Would be interesting to see. I know there are a lot of WoS, but there are also a lot of other wallets in use here. I’m not convinced that’s an accurate assessment.
Don’t WoS zaps produce a lightning invoice number? Can’t you track it and see it moving on lightning and not a WoS database?
They do, but as far as the actual movement of funds if both the sender and receiver are both on the same node then the funds don’t actually move through any channels. This would also be true of 2 custodial alby wallet users sending to each other, or 2 custodial BlueWallet users, or 2 users on your own node at home. Does that still count as using lightning? Personally I think so, but I can also see his point on that.
So it all stays in the custodial service lightning wallet? But is partitioned by their server into your account or mine.
Yes correct. With any custodial wallet that is how it would work. There is the underlying liquidity and custodial funds, and then a user accounting system on top of it to track user balances. When a payment involves sending/receiving with another actual node then there is actual movement of those funds.
I see your point too 🤔
Corndo i’m trying to zap you your own meme but i’m getting consistent errors! Something about SSL connection. Might be a “me problem”
what hw/sw do you people use ? more interested in sw and your experience
I'll use Blixt wallet
Nostr (Iris) + WoS + Blixt
Yeah, this is so funny. Sure it still has problems, but it already can do more than any other payment network in history.
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It's the people who said lightning network will fail/failed are the ones who funded my entire lightning network education
Taking forked coins to invest in my own lightning network education is easily my best investment to date 🤤 I was hesitant to dump fork coins for all sorts of reasons, but the stupid comments that detractors made on lightning (wasted wayy too much time on r/btc) couldn't be ignored which made me decide that making all those bitcoiners put their money where their mouth is was in fact the ethical thing to do -- evidently many having lost it all aren't bitcoiners anymore
thanks to Roger and Craig for bringing their fools together to fund mine and many others lightning network endeavors 😗🤙
Rene Pickhardt is getting close to having LN transactions move into the thousands of dollars range.. When this happens, the sky is the limit for usage to grow.
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*That meme is said by every 💩coin YTer know it all.
