Tales from 4chan.
https://solitarybeast.com/blog/5-signs-that-a-woman-has-hit-the-wall
Discussion
LOL
And I'm just more convinced that being a lone mountain man is my fate.
It’s 100% clickbait designed to fuel a war between the sexes. Don’t bite
Maybe, but... It's also not exactly wrong about things.
And, well, I give up. 🤷♂️
Oh yes it is exactly wrong about things 😂
I know you give up, but you don’t need to
About what, exactly, is it wrong? I've come across women who behave EXACTLY as described because they bought into the career strong woman feminist BS.
That's because you hit on the same 3 women all men everywhere are hitting on. 😂
Most women rarely get hit on. Some never do.
Once you realize that "women" is 4chan speak for "women way out of my league", everything they write finally makes sense.
Until then, it's like ?????
Well, any good woman is probably out of my league since I wasted my good years playing in the wrong ball park.
a female friend of mine joined Tinder and said the expectations and interactions with the guys made her feel like a whore. she ditched it after just a week.
so i wonder, what women can you find on Tinder?
she ended up dating a coworker
i've met the guys that all the women on tinder fall for
lived in the house
every other night was one of three different girls, and when he discussed it with male company he despised all of them
oh yeah, he was a sociopath also
do women want to be treated badly like that? you would think that they would get wiser quick.
I know a cocktail waitress who always fall for the worse men. it's like she's stuck in taking care of a bad brother mode.
see, painting this as being all about "men" and "women" misses the real content of the story
most of the whores are spoiled brats used to getting whatever tehy want if they pout and flutter their eyelids or hold their breath or something
the guys who get these whores are those type that strut around and drive the fast car and are "bad boys", and these ones are also spoiled brats, because how else did they get the blings they needed to cultivate this? it becomes an obsession thereafter for them
and all the rest of the mess about dating now in this modern secular culture where there is not a concept of futurity or the value of virtue and prudence and chastity, it's a dead market, if you ask me
best i can think of to respond to all this shit is just get used to the idea of never finding one because they are already either taken or not worth having, because the majority of them are very confused, and some are borderline dangerous because of how twisted up their personality is
i'll just put this one in God's hands because i sure as hell have no way to fix the problem for myself, i'll stick to my philosophising and shitposting and writing code and que cera, cera
I like your reframing.
We have swallowed the "sex-positivity","you can have it all" vibe for too long.
I do think there are still a lot of people finding each other by the number of hand-holding that I see walking around.
And it's about the cars too:
guy in BMW: red flag.
guy in F150/ Honda Accord-- could go either way, leans positive
Guy in Toyota Corolla, Prius. if he's not a delivery driver -- grab him. clearly doesn't have issues.
I think it's important to be philosophising and shitposting while you're waiting for God.
Most women avoid men like that. Likewise, such men avoid us. That's probably why we don't get hit on often.
Some women like it, yes. 🤷♀️
There seems to be a connection to womens' jobs. Any woman who works close to the public, like in sales, waitressing, nursing, cashiering, etc. will get hit on a lot just because of the amount of men she's exposed to and her need to be friendly. They talk to dozens or hundreds of men every day and smile at all of them.
Bookkeepers, engineers, backoffice workers, and cleaning ladies... Not so much.
The Walmart cashier meme is indicative of how delusional men can be.
She gets paid to smile at you. She gets hit on all day. She's young because the job sucks and doesn't pay well, and everyone tries to get out of it, as fast as possible.
That's an interesting link between customer service jobs and people pleasing behavior. It probably trickles into the relationship and makes it harder to set boundaries and communicate directly.
You will also just be stuck competing with their male customers forever. Hence the divorce rates by female profession.
They tend to have churn. And since those are the women men see the most often, they assume all women are like that.
i have always liked cleaning ladies, i should hit on them maybe
Well, don't take dating advice from me. I managed to spend my entire career surrounded by eligible men and hardly ever get hit on. 😂
I think I've set some sort of negative record.
well, your observation about service staff totally makes sense, and for those whose job tends to mean zero getting hit on that gives me an edge
i've worked with cleaning ladies (i was a cleaner), and i like them, hard nosed, practical women, just never occurred to me to poke at this one if it appears, other similar back-of-house type roles
yeah the ones that do customer service have an aura of aloofness that is obviously part of their attempt to not get hit on so much makes total sense
do you have any age range, like are you wanting to have kids, or you just want a partner.
how do you know you would find someone whose an intellectual match .
this is making me think of Pearl S Buck, "THe GOod Earth" for some reason. I've got to look that up again. It's all about coupleship and changing fortunes affect it.
yeah, i want a fertile woman, i have no kids, want to have a family
people who work in manual labor jobs aren't necessarily stupid, i know this for a fact as i spent a year doing this kind of labor, and i don't think i'm stupid
but i don't need a galaxy brain, just not a mainstream media drone, this is another benefit of the cleaner girl is she may even be in this position because she refused to get jabbed, in these times, i'm sure there is other similarly low-contact roles than cleaner where all of the above would be more likely to be the case i just can't think of many... and the best way to encounter cleaners is to be around until closing time, in any case, that's when they tend to appear...
they also show up in apartment blocks in many places too, anywhere more than a few dozen apartments there will be cleaning ladies
well damn. you made me have to Google "when does a woman lose her fertility" 45 it slows down and 51 it's over apparently. do you have any grace for someone who is right at the beginning of the process?
I happen to know a cleaning lady who was fired for the situation you described... she has the wisdom of the native Americans.
I accidentally zap so many times on primal
Do those women exist? Yes. Are they strong? No. Are they the kind of women you should waste your time hanging around given the choice? No.
Articles like this do not describe the women who fill my life. Their sweeping generalities and nasty tone are insulting to us.
Having a career and being a strong woman are anything but BS, btw. I'll leave the feminist thing because it can mean anything to anyone these days.
Do you want me to go through it line by line? I don't really have time for that, so I'll mostly just say the whole thing is just what I described.
A few top of mind examples, though:
From the first screenshot... I only wish I'd been hit on once a month, so what is this multiple times a day bs? I can count on both hands, maybe just one, the number of times I drew that kind of attention before I met my husband in my mid-thirties.
(Which puts the lie to the first line of the article. No longer sexually desirable to men? Which men? Different tastes exist.)
Yet somehow, this never ''terrified'' me. Maybe because I'm a strong feminist(?) woman, I have never placed my self-worth in male attention. I have also never, never EVER, used sexuality to manipulate. The thought disgusts me.
I also had plenty of faith in myself to do things for myself, despite the article's huge bold headline that I can't. The many women I know even more capable, skilled, and successful than me also put the lie to that.
The whole thing is basement incel crap and you can and should do better than to believe it.
I am probably a basement incel without knowing it... So that might check out. 😂
My theory is incels are alone BECAUSE women can tell they don’t respect them.
It’s in your power to change.
🫂
I don't think incels respect anyone, let alone themselves or women.
Accurate
So if you think you’re on that path, back up 🫂
I respect women, at least ones that are deserving of it.
I don't respect myself, but I suppose that's changing slowly.
I’m glad you’re growing in respect for yourself 🫂
I’m sorry to have to say it, but I would not say you respect women if you give credence to this article and feel it generally represents your thoughts about women. There have been other things I’ve seen you say that also tell me that’s another area for growth.
No, it doesn't represent my general thoughts on women. It certainly accurately describes a subset of women that I have seen and also seems to be growing as they age into the ranges described.
You're correct that I have growing to do, but I'm very, very resistant to change and... It's just my being an idiot, as usual. 🤷♂️
It is surprisingly hard to respect yourself. And it takes time.
And effort. And few good decisions :)
Most women end up taken because they stick with one of the few men who signals interest.
Hey, nothing wrong with that! 😃
You're not wrong. It's just a bit lonely at times. Especially when I need a good back scratcher.
develop a healthy savior complex you will never be lonely again
My goodness, this is funny!
Well, there's always the bears to help with that... 😃
I'd rather not have bears as close company too often.
I'm too slow abd I think I'd be rather delicious... 😎
Go for it!!! It’s kind of wonderful. 🥰
Been living my best life being the crazy old witch on the ridge. Stayed home for about 6 months until last week.
That doesn't sound too terrible, though, I'm not at the point where I can't be a wage slave yet.
Geez, I really need to push to finish my novel...
Writing is wonderful. You can do it. Promise. ✨✨✨
Well, yes. I had stalled since I couldn't figure out an important part, but, just this morning I had a very good idea after talking to a friend about it. So... I need to get writing again.
Artist life … all empathy on this.
#WriteOn #WriteOn #WriteOn
Eh...
I'm not artistic. I just write decently well at times.
Unasked for advice … I felt the same way. Is it the artist or the viewer who decides what art is? Does it matter? Maybe not. 🫂
Don’t give up beave 💋😘💕
Why? (asked sincerely.)
so I’m not alone in not giving up 🥲
There's plenty of other people that are still looking. I tried. I'm pretty convinced that it's not worth the effort to bother trying anymore. I'm not what a good woman wants and I have had enough with bad women.
You could always shoot your shot (dm me)
I did DM you, though. 😂
Then she never replied to us 😂
She's probably busy watching the mess in France.
“Men aren’t “intimidated” by successful women.”
Sure thing. Then explain to me why when a woman makes more money than her partner HE is more likely to: cheat on her & domestic abuse is more prevalent. Statistically.
Biggest red flag 🚩 I ever personally ignored was the rise of red pill on Reddit. 😭
As far as this idea of hitting the wall. Lifelong I wanted to be judged off my own abilities & not my looks. It’s been beautiful to have that happen… even if it required me aging into it. 🤣✨🙏
Lastly, being beautiful & NOT using it to intentionally manipulate others has proven the best choice. I say intentionally as it wasn’t ever my choice to do this.
Below is a picture of me AFTER having three children. Women are strong, fierce creatures. No wonder *some* men are intimidated. To be BRUTALLY honest: some men RAPE strong women to seek to destroy them. To my own: FUCK YOU … I made it. I’m alive & WILL RISE again. Stronger than ever.
Whats the point of your photo? That you still have some youth as power over men?
Did you read what I wrote? The point of the photo is to add to this discussion. 🤦🏻♀️
Youth doesn’t dictate power over men. Even when I outranked men older than me, they didn’t like I was younger. Cause men. 🤣
IF you believe that youth is a woman’s only power, & buy into that ideology then you’re either very naive or brainwashed.
My looks were used against me my entire career. Happier to be older (and fatter) now as it’s done less so. 🙏
You appeared to me to be pointing out that you are still youthful after having several children. If your intellectual merits are your only source of power and authority, your youthful appearance as you age is a red herring
Men have the same discrimination. Youth implies inexperience, and there is no way around it, because by definition you are inexperienced. I dont think its unique to women. Women have an advantage over men in the workplace because not only is their presence more valued (because of beauty), but it is socially acceptable and even expected to be disagreeable. A woman with good looks can use the "bitch factor" or "motherliness" to command peers and inferiors and show an innate ability to manage. Women tend to be more organized at work, and focused on what others are doing. This gives them good managerial ability. If a woman also has competance in the field she is managing people in, she becomes a superstar and consequently can command higher pay if she is not torn by familial priorities.
Disagreeable. Fine. But not always respected: male dominated career field. I’d suggest something & it would be pushed aside or blatantly ignored. So I shared with men (same pay scale) & suddenly it was brilliant sauce.
But I learned. And retired nicely. 🤣🫡🙏
Some even said “the best of the best”
The article presents good arguments. What's your counterpoint?
That it's describing only the most attractive women and asigning their attributes to all women.
Myopic, rather than rational.
Wait. I used to have women come hit on me occasionally. Including one time at work when my boss’s boss put her arms around me and started talking about how good I was looking that day. Hasn’t happened in a decade. Have I hit the wall?!?!?! Oh well. I’ll manage somehow.