And my answer was that I don't think he gives a fuck.
Research whatever I say. I don't want you to believe me. If I say something that inspires you to research it, then that's enough for me.
Have you noticed that science has dramatically slowed down in the last 50 years? And that 200 years ago there was an explosion of new inventions, and that we've lost whatever mojo we used to have? Meanwhile, maybe its just a coincidence, but Christianity has fallen deeply into illusion. Its connected.
Too much moving the goalposts but I appreciate your time. Let's agree to disagree.
Where did I move goal posts?
You keep bringing up science and all these other things that have nothing to do with my initial post. I'm trying to find out why god would want to be worshipped not to be convinced of god's existence or that christianity is the reason for human flourishing.
You keep asking questions. I'm just answering them.
If you're going to credit christianity for the good things christians did then you also have to blame christianity for the evil things that they've done. And a lot of evil has been done in the name of religion. But if I bring up evil things that christians do, you'll say that those people are just evil and are not following christianity correctly. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
I like Nietzche’s take on Jesus:
Nietzsche admired Jesus as a radical, life-affirming figure—but condemned how Christianity distorted his message. He saw Jesus as a noble spirit corrupted by his followers, especially Paul.
Jesus as a moral genius: Nietzsche believed the historical Jesus embodied a profound inner peace and love that transcended resentment. He saw Jesus not as a dogmatic preacher but as someone who lived his truth through example, not doctrine.
A symbol of love and non-retaliation: In The Antichrist, Nietzsche wrote that Jesus taught people to “love your enemies” not out of weakness, but as a radical affirmation of life. He admired this ethic as deeply personal and transformative
Jesus rejected institutional power: Nietzsche saw Jesus as someone who opposed religious authority and legalism. He believed Jesus lived in defiance of rigid moral codes, embracing a spontaneous and joyful existence.
Paul as the corrupter: Nietzsche argued that Paul distorted Jesus’s message by introducing guilt, sin, and the concept of eternal punishment. He claimed Paul turned Jesus’s life into a religion of resentment and control
Christianity as anti-life: While Jesus affirmed life, Nietzsche believed Christianity betrayed him by promoting suffering, asceticism, and denial of the body. He called Christianity “the greatest misfortune of humanity” in The Antichrist
Jesus vs. the Church: Nietzsche drew a sharp line between Jesus and the Church. He saw the Church as a political institution that weaponized Jesus’s teachings to manipulate and dominate.
