I believe “likes” and count were biggest culprits.
“Screw you” naturally gets more attention and engagement and eventually spread.
Nothing to do with limit. Limit inspired a lot of creativity. What was lacking was a way to expand on that.
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Do you think quote replies enabled a ‘hey my loyal gang, let’s dunk on this’ to the detriment of balanced discussion under original post?
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Guess I am in the minority but I liked the Twitter character limit. Brevity works for me.
I think the real decline was when Twitter went from 140 to 280 characters per tweet.
Nah. It was the right time. Did allow for more nuance ultimately.
I wish Twitter would have allowed users to categorize/label their tweets in custom feeds that each reader would have had the option to follow or not follow as opposed to follow the entire account. Twitter feeds were way to noisy especially when replies were mixed with tweets.
280 was still ok even though there was a lot of outrage.
10k now turns it into a different service.
The clarity and quickness to read is gone when you don't need to think anymore but use more word.
"We write frankly and fearlessly but then we ‘modify’ before we print."
Clarity and quickness..
I like those attributes in social media.
So aren’t Nostr and Bluesky repeating the same mistake by including likes into the product?
You can use a Nostr client that hides reactions. For example, I have a PR open for Damus to add a setting to hide reactions. Only zaps.
Clients don’t have to implement in nostr. I hope some don’t.
To me the most important are note, re-note, reply, and zap.
I think the likes are empty…but people are used to them I guess.
stop trying to make re-note a thing
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How about denote?
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Official definition = https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/denote
“to make known : ANNOUNCE”
De is a play on words for de-centralized. The more people denote your note, the more decentralized it becomes.
Meant this as a name for quotes, since quotes have no ‘note’ theme. Clearly naming things is not my speciality. 😆
agree that likes are no no. Zaps all the way
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May I know why you dislike ‘likes’ ? It is because of it created a psychology of needing to be liked or that or it was used for algo purposes to increase visibility? Or that it reduces other interactive engagement such as comments and zaps? I may not want to opine on every note and zapping takes 3-4 steps, hence ‘likes’ seems like the easiest way to say I liked what the user posted and no other reasons to it (well sometimes to bookmark it too). I don’t have strong affinity towards ‘likes’ and neither do I hate it, but I am hoping to understand this better
What do you think about an implicit form of like, where clients report when you’ve read a note rather than scrolled past?
Also: it used to be a star on Twitter originally, which I used to mark memorable tweets (I still use "Like" that way on Twitter today)
How much does algorithmic timeline/feed factor in with this? “Screw you” might get more attention briefly but that would be limited to whoever is online at the moment without an algorithm later showing it to more people.
This is actually sort of true. Why do we need likes and why do they need to be displayed?
Yeah hate gets more views. The character limit forced me to be more concise. Twitter probably made me a better writer overall
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Likes were just created to give people "joy" feeling while they were voluntarily providing their datas...