Since realizing the extent that the media is used to manipulate us and divide us along political lines, I've come to see just how badly ingrained this divisiveness is among people. Even on nostr I am constantly seeing people fall into the traps. I divide my social media time about equally between here and Reddit, and while the majority of Reddit is falling into the "left" leaning traps, here it is very much the "right" leaning traps that dominate.

We are supposed to be trying to break free of the influence of major media on #nostr, but it's so deeply ingrained that we continue to perpetuate the bullshit, and it's all so trivial in the scheme of things. Like if you find yourself upset about whatever "woke" crap you've read recently then you're falling face first into the trap. What you consider to be a sign of the degradation of society is only a small minority of extreme behavior that is amplified to seem like a major problem, and by posting about it you only amplify it further.

Then we are all forced to take sides against each other. I think much of the "woke" stuff I see is as ridiculous as many of you do, but I also tend to lean left on some of the more moderate social issues, so when I side with the left on the moderate issues it allows you to lump me in with the extreme woke bullshit. Now I'm a villain because I'm on the same side as the extremists.

It goes the other way too obviously. When people on the right support theocratic ideas I am extremely repulsed, even though they are probably a minority. However I can then also assume that everyone on the right implicitly supports those ideas by supporting right wing candidates and they are then my adversaries by default. What can I do? I have no choice but to oppose them.

Then we are caught up fighting each other instead of the real problem, the banks and the ultra wealthy elites that perpetuate a system that steals from us. It doesn't matter what party is in power, there will always be a wedge issue that's used to divide us that can't be resolved to either side's satisfaction.

Rather than fighting it out at the highest levels of government, these issues should be getting kicked down a level of two so consensus can be reached at a regional level. Then people will have more agency to choose to live under a jurisdiction that more closely aligns with their values. The free market can decide what works best for society this way. #Bitcoin will help lead us towards a more decentralized form of governance I hope. Until then I think the only political battle worth fighting for is whatever promotes the adoption of Bitcoin and/or removes power from centralized hands.

For that second part I tend to think that the left has better ideas for reducing the power of the rich. I know how we all feel about taxes, but if we can tax the shit out of billionaires that will reduce their power. Other forms of wealth redistribution like welfare programs, social safety nets, universal healthcare, and even UBI are steps in that direction. The cost of these programs is irrelevant. They're already printing money to infinity, why shouldn't the people get a larger slice?

Anyway I'm posting this now against my better judgement. If you actually read this far then I'm interested in your thoughts, even if you just want to call me a filthy socialist.

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As long as you describe "right" like this... #anarchy #republic #lessgovernment

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I reject the idea that left is 100% government and right is 0%. That's another trap to villainize the left.

There isn't much difference between the right and left as far as government is conserved. They all want more power so they can suck your blood like a fucking tick.

Yes, I agree when we are talking about the Democratic and Republican parties as institutions. Then the general public gets segregated into left and right based on their affinity for one party or the other. Then each side accuses the other of wanting big government. It's another one of their traps. It should be us vs the global elite ruling class fuckfaces.

A tick will eventually become satiated and leave the host, unlike government.

I put "left" and "right" in quotes for a reason to try to avoid this trap btw. It's really hard to distinguish the two sides without these terms, but they are incredibly loaded with baggage that gets people hung up. The left and right are the categories that THEY put us in and are used to divide us.

Yeah I have as much in common with the current "left" as I do the right. Hence being a libertarian.

Because if you give the power to politicians you’re not really improving the situation. Reducing the power of billionaires only really makes sense if you want to reduce their ability to buy a political moat. If they couldn’t do that, then generally a free market doesn’t allow them to be rich forever.

Bitcoin will lead to that eventually, but in the meantime I think we should be trying to use the power of our votes to help it along. Though I recognize that our voting power is pathetic, it's better than nothing. I don't think checking out of the political process completely as many here have chosen to do is helpful.

You don’t necessarily need Bitcoin for the effect I was talking about. They’ve compared Europe to the US where Europe has a less free market and higher concentrations of wealth across time than the relatively more free US. It’s confusing because if you’re measuring inequality with say the Gini coefficient it seems higher in the US at any given moment in time but across time the people in various brackets change more in the US. I do agree that money printing probably causes more of the money to be concentrated across time so Bitcoin is needed.

There's a left AND right woke. Usually at the extremes. Right woke are those that fall deep into conspiracies. Difficult to navigate because some are true. Same with left woke beliefs.

Right/Left Red/Blue all are cracks used to divide and distract the masses.

Both sides are employees of the central Banks.

Our only leverage is BTC adoption. The more it persists, the lighter the weight of their hammer and of their grasps on our energy and work.

As for all the other "debates", unless you come to my home and try to force your ideals on me that I may not agree with, I don't really care. I can hear you out and maybe even have a discussion. But it's really just that.

Your ideas are your ideas.

I have seen some "Twitter Type" divisive on NOSTR. But in my feed, it's a relatively insignificant blip.

Thanks for writing this note and sharing your thoughts.

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"We are supposed..."

Could you define "we" ? If it's "us" who or what is that ?

And what are you referring to regarding "theocratic ideas" ?

What do you know about the school of Traditionalism ?

Wrong. Should be obvious that government at nearly all levels are not to be trusted with money from taxes. Everyone should be paying some tax. If the government needs more money everyone contributes more. Redistribution is the main wedge issue, and you are for it, so it would seem. Fatal mistake in your logic.

Things like raising taxes on billionaires and universal healthcare are actually favored by the majority of Americans, so I don't think they are wedge issues. The fact that these things never get any traction in Congress just shows that our elected officials don't really represent us. The government isn't incompetent just by virtue of it being a government, but by the design of the elite ruling class that pulls the strings. Governments are capable of being a benefit to society when they aren't corrupt bloated bureaucracies as ours has become.

Unfortunately we are stuck with what we have, and they will tax us anyway and spend the money as they see fit. We should at least try to prevent them from further consolidation of power until such a time when they can be brought down via non-violent revolution with Bitcoin, or just straight up violent revolution with guillotines and such.

So much of what you wrote I agree with. But majorities are sometimes wrong. Which is why some countries don’t have pure democracy. So just because a majority likes it, does not mean it is a good idea. Have a great Sunday

Hey filthy socialist. 😂😂

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"Until then I think the only political battle worth fighting for is whatever promotes the adoption of Bitcoin and/or removes power from centralized hands. "

This is the part that i agree with you 100% 🤝

I super appreciate the unitive conversation you began here. ✊🏽

I’m seeing relatively little constructive relating on a platform ostensibly celebrating freedom of speech. It’s discouraging.

I’ve been hesitating to invest myself here because of the hard right lean, but what you highlight for me is the opportunity to transcend that and contribute to something healthier. There are probably more voices out there, lurking because they don’t vibe with the Bitcoin n guns extremism here, waiting to be invited in.

You just need to find your tribe. Right now, almost everyone here is cool, regardless of political affiliation.

And don’t wait to be invited in. Do your thing so your tribe can find you.

There's opportunity to have meaningful dialogue all over. As much as this place can look like a circlejerk, I think there's still a lot of diversity of opinions. It's just that a lot of people don't want to step on anyone's toes and are content to sit around and sing kumbaya. We need fighters willing to challenge people, but also be challenged. There's a number of topics that I've done a 180 on since coming here and getting into discussions about. I don't really know where I'm going with this. Just don't be afraid to be opinionated and piss people off a bit.