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that explains why the Alby stuff ain't working. I guess my self hosting of Alby is an illusion.

Hey Daniel, have you sent a message to getalby.com/help yet?

Lightning address are a centralized part of the lightning network, fortunately Alby made the Hubs so that you do not rely on them. You can send regular invoices and receive them as well.

As for the nwc connections, the nwc protocol is barely born, we just haven't mature nostr yet, and already have a protocol on top of nostr, more devs are welcome to participate on it so that we can improve its resiliency and add more decentralization components to it. There is actually a hackaton being organized for that happening next week in Floripa, a btc++ NWC edition.

Never forget that these products, and protocols, they are in constant evolution and development. When you support a product of a particular group in the space, you are supporting the humans behind it and trust that the humans will put in the effort to take things in the right directions.

I have no doubts nwc will look much different in a couple of years than it looks today, and will become more resilient to unexpected events, just as lightning did, thanks for the people behind it.

Best Regards,

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Logen 10mo ago 💬 2

The AlbyHub relay went down last night and all folks with Self-custodial setups could not zap through AlbyHub because it couldn’t reach your Relay.

The main thing we need is a function that allows us to replace the default the relay in AlbyHub so that users who want to zap from their nodes are not left in the dark when/if the AlbyRelay goes down.

If we’re able to use our own relay like https://github.com/bitvora/wallet-relay then we wouldn’t need to depend on AlbyRelay 100% uptime. We could do it ourselves.

Javier 10mo ago 💬 1

This is downtime wa exclusive to the albyhub that is paid right?

Question:

- If one albyhub user is hosting his own albyhub, that would have not affect him?

- If it would still affect him, the solution is to host your alby hub AND your own node?

Really interested on this as planning how to set me bitvora haven relay...maybe I should consider a wallet relay as well.

Logen 10mo ago 💬 1

The downtime was not exclusive to AlbyHub paid accounts.

Self-Hosting of AlbyHub still requires a connection to their relay in order for NWC to function. This is why running your own relay is so important!

I am still researching on exactly how to get NWC to function with your own relay to create the connection. It doesn’t appear that AlbyHub allows you to change which relay your point you’re instance to.. yet..

The Daniel 🖖 10mo ago 💬 1

You still also need the Lightning address to function, and that’s dependent on Alby’s web infrastructure. There ought to be a way to self-host that too.

Logen 10mo ago 💬 1

For receives… yes very true.. I forgot about this fact (I don’t personally use AlbyHub for receives)

Javier 10mo ago 💬 1

Very interesting.... At least for what I have seen on how they move forward to self custodial, open source, etc... I would think they will work in giving users a way to take control on this as well. At least tutorial based.

Logen 10mo ago 💬 2

As I figure out more, I’ll make a video about it 🫡

The Daniel 🖖 10mo ago 💬 2

I have a shared webserver and a domain, so if there’s a simple way to configure an alternate Lightning address, I could use that.

Logen 10mo ago

If you run your own node, you can use nostr:npub10efcj7x65z2ak6vd69xr8f2hvqwuaqrhlygl3yqa4y63hfvc02mqwzaeh3 to create your own Lightning address with the PayLinks extention

Javier 10mo ago 💬 2

courios what cloud provider are you using for you server? or is home base?

This has been my biggest hang up on start experimenting. As I do not have the hardware to run 24/7 from home.

Have many open sources software that currently I am paying for managed services, like alby hub for example and others, that would love to try to manage my self.

Logen 10mo ago

You can run a home node with a $250 Mac Mini and a few channels with plebs

Remember, Not your rack, not your stack!

The Daniel 🖖 10mo ago

I have a shared hosting Linux server running Apache where I can deploy an unlimited number of domains and small websites, anything that doesn’t require much bandwidth. It costs me about $12/month and I’m underutilizing it at the moment.

Javier 10mo ago

looking forward to it.

OgFOMK ArTS 10mo ago 💬 1

Yes, this was a good event that showed how easy it is to cut off a certain group financially. The same goes for mints that use dns.

The Antichrist has plenty of useful IT idiots to do the work of routing desirable and undesirable traffic.

It's not financial freedom if your transmission layer is rerouted.

nbyte 10mo ago

I feel the need to say it again: innovation is needed.

Nodii 10mo ago

Sounds interesting, are you in touch with other developers in the NWC community?

Here are some links:

https://discord.gg/V8ktknaW (dont hate me)

https://docs.nwc.dev/

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/47.md

The Daniel 🖖 10mo ago

I messaged the team last night but it was during the middle of the night in Europe so I didn’t expect an immediate response. The service actually came back up within a couple of hours for me.