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Nice you made it work! There is just one thing I see: Currently it is very intrusive, it takes you to an external wallet and kind of breaks the smooth experience.

Maybe the way to go is to integrate a wallet inside the client itself? So that all the transaction creation, signing and everything works under the hood.

Idk if this is possible on monero specifically. But maybe so that there is no hardware wallet directly into the app there’s some way of linking to an external wallet on the background? Just like you can link ETH wallets or Lightning wallets over nostr.

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boseph 2mo ago

It's built that way on purpose

Pau Cabrera 2mo ago

Don’t you think it would prevent some users from being incentivised for zapping?

boseph 2mo ago

i think the fact monero is barely purchasable does that for me lol, im not building for the unwashed masses its for autistic weirdos like myself

weev 2mo ago

Monero is hardly "barely purchasable" for US residents. For Eurofags maybe. But Americans in almost all states can purchase it pretty freely.

It’s a great thing you are doing but the guy does have a point, you might want to at least chart out a potential future where the user experience isn’t so jarring.

boseph 2mo ago

its not jarring to me, its like any crypto payment i've ever made and yeah, im not american, only paypiggies have to deal with paying with an external wallet anyway, if you're just receiving payments you add a view only wallet once. hot wallets seem like a headache. still early days though

Pau Cabrera 2mo ago

I don’t like hot wallets either, that’s why I suggested you connnect it to another wallet (could be cold) if that is possible on XMR.

boseph 2mo ago

For sending? No. receiving? Yes Monstr is built with view only wallets for receiving payments so no spend keys are ever shared

Pau Cabrera 2mo ago

Alright… that I understand. Having a read-only wallet in the app itself.

What I am talking about is having some connection with another app wallet (maybe this can only happen on PCs o Android, now iOS) to sign transactions.

And in case there is need for a pop-up, may it be for a quick confirm and then back to the app, without having the screen waiting for the transaction to appear.

weev 2mo ago

yeah, the problem is that good XMR wallets don’t have the APIs necessary to enable this yet. Because XMR is available for purchase in less jurisdictions the ecosystem has been less focused on retail, and more focused on creating things like atomic swaps to enhance XMR’s core competency of obscuring the transport of Bitcoins less salable in your current regime to a legal jurisdiction where they are more so. It’s going to require either forking Feather or getting the Feather people on board.

Pau Cabrera 2mo ago

I see, personally I use cake wallet, their team is constantly doing upgrades, maybe someone could contribute to it (if not the already maintainers) to add such an API.

Daedalus 2mo ago

It would be a big undertaking to integrate a monero wallet in-app and there's no NWC for monero.

Maybe a cool far future feature though. nostr:nprofile1qqsp8qm7ye84fhdj5j8m3nnlzll2mz0tqp28l3rhxjv70z5gwlppgucppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj77rdwgh82um9dehhxarj9ehhyee0qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7yj6kzw if this kicks off I could see adding in a self custodial wallet that splits up a bunch of small UTXOs like the Monerujo PocketChange feature so you can "monero zap" a bunch of posts without locking up your whole wallet for 20 min.

boseph 2mo ago

This is something I've been thinking about, especially the monerujo aspect. They're not called zaps though. They're called embers, zap terminology in my mind are locked to lightning use

shortwavesurfer2009 2mo ago

You might want to wait to integrate that until after FCMP is released.

The only reason I say that is because pocket change is fingerprintable on chain because it looks different than the average Monero transaction and FCMP will stop that.

boseph 2mo ago

all I've heard is "late this year" for release, are there any more concrete dates for ?

Daedalus 2mo ago

Recent Monerotalk with Jeffro discussed it. He said since stresstest is going well and if they don't find major issues it'll be early next year when it hits mainnet.

shortwavesurfer2009 2mo ago

Don't forget about the six month hard fork activation delay. So you're probably looking at something like July or August of next year.

shortwavesurfer2009 2mo ago

Likely early next year if all goes well, followed by a six month period before it activates. I would think August '26

Pau Cabrera 2mo ago

I see, maybe XMR is not ready for this kind of link, or maybe there is just some wallets that allow some kind of localhost connection.

If the latter was the case, I would try to integrate it that way, if not, I would really take this approach of doing stuff on the bg for he future when more features work on XMR