Meat eating is not a sin—it is simply ugly. The very idea of killing an animal when beautiful vegetarian food is available, is deeply unaesthetic. If you can justify killing animals, why not humans? After all, these creatures are our family—they are our brothers and sisters on the same evolutionary journey.
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Maybe for you. I find it beautiful. Nature in it's plenitude. Unaesthetic?! Please, the sheer number of works of art made with animal killing as a theme, immediately renders your argument mute.
I find just as much beauty in a well executed meat harvest/processing as I do vegetable growing/processing
But I get it, to each his own
Interesting...
1. Except humans are created in the image of God and are distinct from humans.
2. If you don't agree with that then at least have the intellectual honesty of recognizing that animals eat other animals and this is a normal function of life on planet earth. Ever seen Lion King? Watch it again maybe.
3. What about human cultures like Inuits? Veganism is a privileged rich white person take. Go to Argentina and tell them you're a vegan. They'll be confused as shit. Veganism there just means poor. You're effectively living out the life of an impoverished person when actual impoverished people would kill to be able to consume delish, nutrient dense animal products.
Great point! I am deep in nature and nature is brutal! Humans are brutal! We just stick our heads in the sand to ignore this fact.
I saw a baby bear ripped open and eaten by his dad. The boar bears does this so that she can have babies again... absolutely horrid behavior but hey they are bears and they are not noble.
Lions do this too
Distinct from *animals
Why do you need to justify it? Other animals are fine with eating eachother, even the ones that are omnivores and have a "choice".
If you claim humans are special and need to be held on a higher moral standard than animals, then you cannot claim a humans and animals are worth the same (or are "brothers and sisters") since that would be in deep contradiction with your own original premise.
The question should be examined carefully at the nutritional and not aesthetic level.
Our biology shows distinct herbivorous traits. Our saliva contains plant-digesting enzymes absent in carnivores. Our stomach acid is mild (pH 4-5) compared to carnivores (pH 1), and our intestines span 10-11 times our body length, matching other herbivores' ratio of 10-12, while carnivores' intestines are just 3-6 times their body length. Physical features like fleshy lips, flat nails, and small mouths align with herbivorous anatomy. While humans can digest meat, our digestive system's structure and chemistry match the profile of plant-eating animals.
frugivores to be specific.....stop eating grasses 😎😁
So why don't I feel good when I eat plants?
Theres a lot of different reasons that could be the case. Diet is an extremely personal thing and people making generalizations because of intestinal length and the shape of teeth miss the point.
that's one reason why I disagree with Ava's position here.
It's just a theory that all *metabolically healthy* people can thrive on a vegetarian diet.
And a huge majority of people in the modern world are NOT metabolically healthy.
Which doesnt necessarily mean they thrive on an animal based diet
but it is often the case that people with poor nutrient uptake do better with animal fats and animal proteins.
like I said,
its mostly case by case and it's extremely hard to generalize diet.
(full disclosure
damaged myself with drugs and alcohol when young, lived on a vegan or vegetarian diet for 20 years but didn't begin to heal until I added animal products back into my diet
YMMV)
I think I have that poor nutrient uptake. But I think it's getting better. Something was damaging my intestinal lining. Pretty gross, won't go into detail. More meat has been part of healing that.
Wondering if its coffee!
My gut health seems to be ruined since I started drinking espressos.
I feel like theres a subset of people this is def true for.
my gut health is much better when I don't drink coffee.
That could be it... I'm a coffee addict
same. planning on trying to quit tomorrow morning for 10 days before I go on vacation.
Never seems to be a problem if I add a few drops of milk.\
I was havinfg 14 espressos per day a year and a half ago, now i am down to 2.
But I have to either take a complete break or only drink it with milk from now on.
A meal without meat just doesn't feel complete or satisfying. If you then rob the food of cheese aswell, it becomes just pitiful. Meat is the crown and best tasting part of any meal. I understand the repurcussions on the climate and enviroment, but there is hardly anything on this world (people aside) that I would miss more.
Our biology also shows that we are either male or female. Binary. In our genes.
I'm sure plants want to be eaten, that's why they evolved all those chemical defenses, no doubt.
Figures - a primate who sympathizes more with killing plans for food than other animals such as itself.
Every living thing needs sustenance. That would be other living things. The moment you expire you are food for worms too. It is the way of the world.
Beautiful, ugly - human concepts. Reality is as it is.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
You do you!
I could name many things in our society that many of us find ugly that you may disagree with :)
But why shove that down your throat?
You do you! :)