Listening to Joel from X/UntappedGrowth on reviving rural communities via #Bitcoin based regenerative ag in this #Trump transition to an America-first economy. 🐄🇺🇸🏘️

https://workingcows.net/sound-moneys-role-in-fixing-americas-broken-rural-economies-wcp-416/

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Did he ever get the money he needed to build his citadel?

Guy has been head down building this whole time. Think they're up to nearly 500 cattle now.

That’s impressive. Not an industry that’s easy to grow in.

Agreed. We managed to become one of the biggest ultra high density grazing ranches in the country and nationally recognized as experts in grazing in less than 3 years. Very bleeding edge

https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/regenerative-ranching-in-the-age-022

Well done! You were one of the few that opened my eyes to regenerative ag. I’ve been buying bulk beef for the about 3 years from a local rancher. They do incredible work as well. Who are your customers? Do you sell direct?

We focused first on scaling the female herd through herdshares, we are slowly dialing in being industry leaders in how to properly finish and process nutrient dense grass fed beef. Yes we will sell direct, probably will just start with lean primal ground beef

https://www.smokeriverranch.com/herdshares

Bringing a concept to reality. Way to go. I’ll definitely be on the lookout for the ground beef.

He did. It’s running.

Smoke River Ranch.

https://youtube.com/@smokeriverranch?feature=shared

Nice!

There was a big hype on him a couple years ago.

Then he tried to raise 1M $ urgently. It was really weird.

yes. very weird. I know more, but I'm not getting into it. Joel is a good guy, but some things were sus.

Perhaps a little bit of bad judgement, although in the end it came together on his terms.

It's laughable, tough, to think about the allegation made at the time that he was trying to scam people. Worst scammer in history, if that were the case... Scammed his way into living a vow of poverty so he could build the future he dreamed of. 🤣

For reference, this is a guy from that group

I believe that group was actually leveraged by people using a key planted person in there to stoke them towards taking out certain people from time to time, and as all things like this eventually do it imploded

The character assassination against me (and its intended effect of shattering my team / support) was not an accident

The weirdness was a result of dozens of people saying they'd commit capital but not going through with it when closing time came. The seller wouldn't give an extension because - if you recall market conditions in late '21 / early '22 - he would have made more money pocketing the earnest money deposit and putting the land back on the market at a higher price.

The public last-ditch appeal combined with the terms Joel felt were necessary to execute properly (ie, not including land ownership or operational governance rights for investors) made it look very scammy to the outside observer on bitcoin twitter. And few things fire up that corner of the internet more than piling on when a scammer is being called out.

I will say that he was unable to provide the appropriate paperwork to people commiting large sums of money. I was one of the people who asked him for it and then never heard back from him. I'm glad he's still making it work, and I've moved on to other projects. I did, by the wsy, defend him at the time, even though I was frustrated by how he was playing it out on twitter.

Yes. Disconnect between how business works in the real world compared to how he wanted/wants to do it. I was in the same camp as you. Nuked my Twitter account over the whole thing after stepping up to defend him.

I did the exact same thing. Took some heat for it, and I finally got off twitter for a while before resetting my account and then eventually coming over here.

I got banned forever and then came here

got banned for what?

posting bring back the guillotines

That about sums it up

he was very kind DMing and answering a lot of questions for me back in the day when he was doing the pod circuit

nice guy

Joel is solid.

I agree. I had lunch with him a couple of times.

Alright. You guys got me on Nostr (I'll confirm on a different platform with Laser that this is actually me)

Oh I bet you everyone would figure it out when they saw their first “hey chief”

Lmao. True story

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Welcome, brother. Great to have you here.

Glad to be here