Nostr Web Client

Very valuable insight. Thanks

So the point is, yes they can’t switch you off, but they will know exactly where you are

Yeah, that's the strength of nostr. They can try censor us, but its impossible really.

As for vpn not hiding location, I'm not entirely sure why vpn are not effective in hiding location. Practically the vpn I use works. Ive been on sites since the UK Online Safety Act came into operation. With a vpn outside of UK, UK websites work fine. Without vpn, the website is requesting I complete age verification. You can test this for yourself.

Joe's post on how vpn does not hide location or hide location on nostr. I dont understand the technical jargon and content of the message. Or the limitations of vpns and how they actually are not good at hiding location.

If nostr relays can see our true ip address (even with the use of a vpn), how can an authority get access to this information? Is it public? Do they have to contact the relays? Do they need to run their own relay to get this info. I admit my technical understanding of nostr isn't as good as it should be.

When we say we want to hide our location, what we really saying is we dont want to be censored. Which nostr is succeeding at.

Maybe we could invite a nostr dev to answer some of our questions.

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Garbage nsec 5mo ago

You're misunderstanding. me. VPNs work in terms of what they do, but they don't solve this problem for the relay, for the media server, for the CDN. The expense and obligations are still there, regardless of what users do with VPNs.

These are the entities that suffer the legal consequences.

How does Nostr work if it's nobody dares run a relay, media server or CDN without the mandated guardrails? And without the mandated guardrails it's too much of a legal risk. That is the real question, not can a user get a VPN.

Z4 Explorer 5mo ago

Yes I am struggling to follow the point you are making. Gap in my knowledge about how the Internet/ nostr works behinds the scenes isn't helping.

Are nostr relays anonymous? Can authorities identify a nostr relay and fine them for sharing certain messages / content?

Garbage nsec 5mo ago

Authorities can identify a Nostr relay and fine the operator for sharing content, yes. By design all relay content is public (for Nostr proper).

If the relay operator is outside of the UK then the operator can be charged in abstentia, can be prevented from entering the UK, can be prosecuted on entry to the UK, can be prevented from interfacing with UK businesses, etc.

Z4 Explorer 5mo ago

That's terrible.

I need to clarify something. If I run my own nostr relay, how can an authority find me? Through ip address? Can using a vpn hide my location? How about tor, can that hide my identity?