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Watched the first 5minâŚ. Heâs still spewing the same âmuh whitepaperâ garbage from 7 years ago.
Why is nostr:npub12qz56plzehejkyp4waaannmnny4y4c30j8q55a3wlk49haslga2snypdx8 giving this scammer a platform?
I think because he has been one of the most influential persons in bitcoin for a long time. đ¤ˇđź
For me personally he is maybe just a âscammerâ in the same way like many of the current bitcoin (btc) influencers are.
Some weird and questionable promotions at the time. But not teally worse than the typical podcaster/blogger does today.
He forked of. That especially made him âmost evilâ in the eyes of many.
I donât like bitcoincash more or less than litecoin, ethereum or tether but personally I still like to hear his inputs.
I see no problem in interviewing him. I even thank you @Vlad for running the show the âopenâ way you do. đ
Hard disagree here. I was around back then and things were very uncertain. I was much earlier in my Bitcoin understanding and wasnât sure what to think.
But this guy, along with some other fraudsters, spent YEARS telling people their shitcoin was âthe real Bitcoinâ well after the market had voted. Heâs basically still telling the same lie in the first 5min of this interview, in 2024 đ¤˘
In other words, he continues scamming people to this day. Yes he tried to change Bitcoin and failed - thatâs ok. Itâs his actions since that event that make him a scammer. Anyone giving him a platform at this point is doing a disservice IMO.
Watch until the end, please. Judging this from the first 5 minutes is not fair and a waste of everyone's time.
Giving a scammer a platform is a waste of everyoneâs time.
Are you saying that he diverts from being a scammer after the first 5min? Because what I heard in those 5min was literally him reiterating the same scam talking points he has been spewing for nearly a decade (literally the same garbage đ)
nostr:npub12qz56plzehejkyp4waaannmnny4y4c30j8q55a3wlk49haslga2snypdx8 if you say he diverges from that narrative, I will watch more of the interview. But I would still question why he spreads that misinformation
He has a different perspective but I think he is genuine in his opinion. That doesn't make him a scammer, it just makes him wrong.
The fork made me not put money into Bitcoin for years, because how can you know which one will go to 0 and which one will survive? I have a lot of regret obviously 𤣠and hate a scammer as much as the next person, but this is an interview worth listening to. I don't trust Saylor and think that Wall Street is going to want a chain that only works for banks. I hope we can do better.
They owned the domain bitcoin . com, and marketed their shitfork to people as âthe real Bitcoinâ, for YEARS after. How is that not a scam??
Easy: they really believe it.
I find that very hard to believe. But even if true, it doesnât change the fact that it is a scam
You find that hard to believe that Roger really really thinks that small-blocker-conspiracy existed and exists? Seriously?
For me it is totally obvious that he really believes that.
I do believe that too btw⌠at least in a small extent.
I agree. The big blockers were censored on Reddit and Bitcoin Talk. This is well known. Blockstream was given $21 million to make sidechains, but instead they created a multisig and called it Liquid.
I think the conspiracy is that big blocks have no "use case". Of course they have a use case! They are just a terrible idea for L1, and should be an L2 drivechain.
Instead of admitting both sides are right and wrong about many things, they all double down on their nonsense. Divide and conquer.
Do I think that Roger still believes his idea to change Bitcoin was a good one? Sure. But thatâs the beauty of Bitcoin, it doesnât care about one actor with a bad idea.
Do I believe Roger believes it is morally ok to market BCash as âthe real Bitcoinâ, 7 years after the market rejected his idea? LMFAO absolute not. And if he does, he is by definition insane. This is the scam, regardless of his sanity.
Everyone is a scammer and Bitcoin doesnât care. đ¤ˇđź
I still think that interview was awesome and would recommend it to everyone who got orange-pilled in the early days and experienced the block-size war from its start till today.
Fair enough, I will try to find the courage to stomach the smug fart sniffing lies and give it a second try
I would not say that you are basically wrong.
But at the same time everyone is a scammerâŚ
One thing is for sure:
The drama is real đđż
Never was uncertain about the real bitcoin. In since 2010. No joke
LMFAO IMAGINE SPENDING A MILLISECOND LISTENING TO THAT BUM IN 2024 #HIGHLYRRGARDED
I did. đ¤ˇđź
Wasnât even that crazy.
Best takeaway from this podcast is that Roger still holds BTC, because deep down he knows he was wrong, but refuses to admit defeat.