hey nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgswaehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5qzpduedsvruqmd7fuq99zmszaaezct7kt3ke3p4p4lx45uxvs30uramc7k5h - doesn't altseason usually indicate we are getting close to the end of a cycle? i know we don't have many historical datapoints, but iirc there is usually some bleeding from bitcoin into the alts and maybe a final push upwards before everything tops out and the crash begins.

do you think this time is different in this regard?

i know you have a price target around 450k for this cycle, do you still believe in that given this new altseason beginning datapoint?

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Historically-speaking, yes, this could signal that we are nearing the end of the business cycle.

However, the confusing part of the current cycle (confusing to me, anyway) is the fact that ISM has been essentially sub-50 since 2022... that is, it hasn't even recovered yet.

I see two primary possibilities:

1. ISM has a very quick, sharp recovery to 55-60 in 2H 2025 and the bull market in risk assets crescendos, with bitcoin (and crypto) rising exponentially. If this happens $475k could still be in play in 4Q 2025... although this is increasingly unlikely.

2. The economic cycle extends into 1H 2026, at least, which could extend bitcoin's (and risk assets') bull market beyond the "expected" four-year cycle.

I think that the unusual business cycle--historically-speaking--is the primary explanation for the unusual price action for bitcoin so far in 2025. If the business cycle (as reflected in the ISM) remains relatively dampened and/or elongated, this will likely be reflected in the USD price action of bitcoin.

So... I am watching it with great interest.

Dr. Jeff, anyway you can help investors and HODLers with another YouTube Update for old times sake?

I'm trying to unplug.

Completely understand :) - thank you for your wisdom these past few years - greatly appreciated 🙏

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I think given your framework here some of the old cycle metrics like pi tops and 5x 200dma are probably still useful indicators. Would be incredibly disappointing if we topped without any of those heating up even slightly. Either Bitcoin is now boring for good due to Wall Street or the party really hasn't even begun yet.

Either way, all of this steady bullcrabbing for the last two years has led to a pretty good base. I'd be shocked if we ever saw sun $70k Bitcoin again

Thanks for that, helpful to know where your head is at.

I could see a scenario playing out where we top out in Q4 this year (same timing as historical cycle tops) around 150-250 and then we just head on down for a year or so.

But I like your version much better!