Is this the original nietzche’s “god is dead” claim?
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No
This is the logical consequence of the fact of personal responsibility, scarcity, and uncertainty. Our duty is to ourselves, our lives, individually. Nietzsche might have ranted about this quite a bit, but this is not a solely Nietzschean concept. It's just the truth.
It is also confirmed in the Bible, interestingly, if you know how to read it.
The claim is that once we turn inward and worship ourselves, god is dead.
Yeah that claim is retarded and wrong. Worshipping the self is idiotic. Working for the self is good. I am not God. I just am. And I like to have fun. Worshipping yourself is mystic solipsistic bullshit.
Nietzsche was ironically a weak man in my opinion.
Strong in some ways though. We've all got strengths and weaknesses but that was my main takeaway from him. A lot of genius and a lot of insight with a lot of presumption and freaking the fuck out. Dude needed to get laid.
>Dude needed to get laid
Or did he know something you don't.
I'll look later, but yes everyone knows stuff I don't know, we're all profoundly ignorant, which is what makes privacy and diversity and life possible 🤙
Finally watched it. Man, I get tired of Schopenhauer's blackpill ideology. "Woe is me, woe is life, woe is the human will, look at how smart I am and people naturally hate me wah wah wah"
Man the fuck up, Schopy. It's tempting to fall into that, I get it. I was sort of kind of there myself. But I never quit looking for that next white pill. I know that the human will is not inherently evil nor is existence. Victim narratives be damned.
Women can be awful, yes. Some are not worth dealing with. For some, that awfulness is a test nature throws at you. Only the strongest of men succeed. Women are not even aware of the full nature of the test. They are programmed by God or by experience or whatever to give men shit tests. A strong man will develop a healthy relationship and challenge his partner to be better and call her out on her bullshit (and the woman should do the same! but women have a tendency to have a less developed bullshit detector lol). It doesn't work if you assume stupid shit like "oh this could never be worth it, some A is B therefore all A is B" or "I guess I'll just be nice and do whatever she asks, happy wife happy life."
No. You just steer clear of women who bullshit you consistently with no hope of redemption, and you have standards for the women you spend time with and you make it clear there are consequences for illogical bullshit, and you take charge and handle that shit respectfully, respectful of yourself and her. Sometimes you're the only one who respects either of you. You have to be that strong. If you're not, then yeah you're better of checking out and going on a different journey, perhaps until you become strong enough or meet a better woman. It's as simple as that. But Schopy and Nietzsche just cry about everything, they sound like me before I manned the fuck up.
I don't think you are his target audience. In order for you to derive your logic, a line must be drawn so I will do the same. My line is the younger generation men who haven't developed the maturity to deal with the situated like an adult. If we want to protect our children from what could easily be subconscious then acceptance is in order. An I mean that from a non free market environment perspective where we are all stuck in this human zoo population that we were never designed for. Where rules are made in an emerging ecosystem that contradict nature time and time again.
From a probe-sense-respond strategy, offer an exit from the human zoo population, and let me know when you find a sample. Write down your statistics.
I 100% agree with your statement about worship. I never understand it since I was a child, and I still don't.
I have a hard time differentiating between notions of working on the self and worshipping the self. We all worship something, it comes down to whether it is primarily internal or external.
What would an atheist or agnostic worship? If one doesn't understand worship then are they just not aware of it? Maybe they worship random shit everyday, and so become oblivious to it because it changes every day?
The atheist is mostly strictly in the god is dead camp.
“In the day-to-day trenches of adult life... there is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship.”
David Foster Wallace
That sounds like attention.
Tomayto, Tomahto
I don't think it's attention, at least not in a strictly receptive manner. You could say that worship is a merging process. There is a signal of intent that we haven't been able to measure using any physical apparatus. The problem with attention is that most things that are examined outside ourselves are only mirrors of ourself.
Probably in the same vein. The idea is that nature doesn't have a frontal lobe in their brain, so all they see is reality, and humans can't see reality because 'everything is filtered through their frontal lobe'. Meaning everything that exists in humanity is based in abstract thought. The 'everything is filtered through their frontal lobe' makes proving what is real a difficult problem. A strategy to cope with this idea is to look to nature to find an example. Do unicorns exist, or is it just a figment of our imagination? Maybe it does exist, but what you saw was the tip of a sawtooth, and you couldn't see the entire blade cutting down a tree.
Nature is what gets us to turn back outward away from self worship, and there god is not dead.
If feel like that depends on the divine feminine or divine masculine perspective. So, to be clear, they are both divine, and to master both, one becomes whole.
