Serious question. I see a lot of talk about zapping but looking at zaplife I see very little action compared to even month ago. Is it that zaplife hides the zaps, or people exaggerate! Correct answer only! ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

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Anecdotally it seems lower to me.

Too many iOS users do not know about ZapplePay yet http://habla.news/tony/zapplepay

It requires them to have getAlby and NWC, so that is understandable ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

You can use nwc without alby

His point is that itโ€™s already too much work for a normie. I tend to agree. But Iโ€™m sure it will become easier over time. Obviously wonโ€™t be possible without you

It is

What is NWC?

Nostr Wallet Connect ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

Thanks

Also, after looking at the code of zapplepay, I would personally not trust it. The keys to your wallet (even if you set the budget) are stored in clear on a server. I donโ€™t know where that server is or show has access to it, or how well itโ€™s protected. The more users use it the larger and more profitable target it becomes. So there is that ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

Hmm.

Iโ€™m not sure if there is a good way to store this securely since it has to all be read by the server based on a trigger of a โ€œlikeโ€ and not some explicit action from the zapper (I.e. making an API call and decrypting the encrypted string to make the payment).

Only solution I can think of is running a โ€œpersonalโ€ zap agent on your computer for yourself that performs the same function.

Youโ€™d still need to protect your nwc info but at least youโ€™d be responsible for yourself.

I didnโ€™t say it was an easy problem, so it is hard. If itโ€™s a serious service, I would take a look at what Asinq did with their routing node. They definitely put in a lot of thought into it ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

I agree. Was thinking โ€œout loudโ€ in my note more than anything.

I agree if this is going to be a long term or serious workaround.

I appreciate you looking at the source code and doing due diligence on that.

โ€œNot your zaps not your satsโ€

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As BB King sang ๐ŸŽถ the thrill is gone ๐ŸŽถ

Novelty wears off with time I guess ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคฃ

Damus probably has quite a bit of the โ€œkind 1โ€ market and appleโ€™s decision is a set back.

Workarounds like zapplepay are clever and I use it but it also creates friction that some users probably wonโ€™t pursue.

Just my made up speculation.

Good one too, friction here doesnโ€™t help for sure. If itโ€™s hard to spend people will avoid it ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

This.

Biggest issue is Apple. They block note tipping and most people arenโ€™t going to go the extra step to tip in profile.

Part of tipping is recognition, this disappears with no note tipping.

Sad realityโ€ฆ for now.

I think the action has worn off, especially with the whole Apple vs Damus issue.

Yeah, that one was a big setback for sure ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜ž

Shit is real in the field bro. Milk up bread up eggs up. Hahahaha ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…

If only I could understand what you wrote ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคฃ

Definitely feels like less zapping action the past couple of weeks. I better check my wallet ๐Ÿ˜‚ probably low on sats and don't even know it ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

Lol! Just doubled your up! ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿซ‚

I think thereโ€™s not as much zapping lately

Feels this way for sure! I guess zappers are running out of sats๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Itโ€™s different for sure

And of course nostr:npub1vp8fdcyejd4pqjyrjk9sgz68vuhq7pyvnzk8j0ehlljvwgp8n6eqsrnpsw comes in with a zaaappppp ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿซ‚

I noticed myself zapping way less than i use to , probally because my intital excitement for doing so is not there

Still try to zap often but more selective.

Let's zap eachother more then ๐Ÿซ‚๐Ÿ’œ I feel like nostr:npub1ezw0xm0w52rd4yfdg9zlw9qvwdy46alzelklkefptrd203m37tuq4djmeg is one of the few people left zapping as much as we all used to do. #zapmore

It's cause them apples ๐ŸŽ

Bad Apple ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ›๐ŸŽ๐Ÿฟ๏ธ they took r zaps

Fucking Apple ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜‚

Apple made zaps illegal. People are scared they might end up in Nostr jail if they zap! ๐Ÿ˜‚

Damn right, straight to jail! ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ˜‚

New apple rule, less zapping action these days.

I see a lot of this is people saying apple crippling damus is the issue.

Would this work? Subscribe to a specific relay and send it any amount of sats, then it follows your likes and sends zaps to them automatically? If damus has customizable emojis like amethyst does, you could even have certain emojis correspond to amounts to send. Then you could withdraw by liking your own post. Sort of like lntipbot on reddit, but less of an eye strain.

Thatโ€™s exactly (sort of) what zapplepay is doing ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

Ah, nice.

I don't think zaplife hides the zaps, from my personal experience I noticed people zap less since the trouble with apple. #fuckApple

My zapping is up five times. Nwc (nostr wallet connect) is a game changer!

I've also seen a drastic decline of zaps in my timeline on notes and replies. I assume it's caused by the increased friction to zap in Damus, not sure though.

Agreed still think sending a decent starter budget hooks better for new plebs, but the Damus drop feels noticeable โšก๏ธ

maybe it's a sign of growth for Nostr. Users becoming selective.

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