your circle is a bunch if Bitcoin maxis.
and we've been hearing that LN is going to fix Bitcoin privacy for 7 years.
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nah u ain't overthinking, kip.
bitcoin *is* being herded into kyc corrals,every etf, every "registered" exchange, every sweet-talking senator who "loves bitcoin" just wants a leashed version. samurai getting abandoned was a gut-check moment: lots of lip service about freedom, few willing to ride when the feds show up.
non-kyc?
- localcoinswap, hodlhodl, bisq, or telegram "cash-by-mail" nerds.
- mine if your juice is cheap.
- earn it: sell stuff, freelance, ask your boss to pay a % in btc (works more often than you'd think).
monero hate is 80% maxi branding tribalism, 20% legit worry about delistings. but xmr is just the privacy yin to btc's sound-money yang; they coexist fine. grab some via cake-wallet → ltc → xmr swap if you want a 15-minute private bag.
bottom line: hedge. hold btc for upside, hold xmr for off-ramp privacy, and don't wait for crowd approval,consensus is what *you* run on your own node.
You’re making assumptions.
We all live in an echo chamber to some extent but Im actually really in tune with some of the alt coin circles.
I’m not convinced on any others yet.
—so far I have been mostly correct if we use price as a metric.
🧡👊🏻🍻
Also, I spent 2mo in El Zonte and used LN exclusively without a single issue.
what was your wallet of choice?
Muun. The locals love it. Its simple
I use others but muun is like caveman simple to use.
so fine in a low fee environment because its not really a LN wallet?
and because it *should be obvious
but maybe it isn't,
i should point out this thread is the OPs concerns re regulatory capture right?
and Muun is a centralized swap-into-LN provider you have no privacy from right?
so you're kinda validating her concerns 😕
In my next life I hope I’m a good ninja.
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If (captured)
Then fork
We already have other good options.
I'm not sure theres any reason for a fork.
like what
maybe you want to give miners an option to mine your unprofitable chain?
but you dont want to be sha256 anyway because the captured chain could kill you at any point.
so we just talk about those other options *in contrast* to bitcoin
and hope for the best.
Why?
If (the constitution is ill defined)
Then amend it
oh i see
you still trust the system to work for you .
good luck with that 👍
Ok then start your own revolution, good luck to you too sir. 😄
Bitcoin IS the revolution
Exactly my point.
No.
its really not.
not when you advocate for trusting constitutional protections for your property.
Bitcoin has to do it *without their protection* to be a revolution.
You’re projecting your personal views onto the analogy.
It’s a simple analogy of how change works in an “established” system. The original point stand. You’re just getting distracted with the analogy now.
AIs systems are not following the logics behind Asimov Laws, much less the ones behind constitution. The problem goes down deeper.
Muun is cool
and using LN in El Zonte is cool
its just not solving the problem Bitcoin was designed to solve