People sell drugs on Instagram. Do you think Meta is responsible? No. The person selling the drugs is. Obviously a marketplace is needed, we want Nostr to be capable of everything and anything. I'm thinking Will is just feeling a bit intimidated by nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z amazing advancements in this wonderful protocol we call Nostr.
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Tell that to Ross
I'm not positive, but do you mean the guy who ran the silk road. A website that's sole purpose was drugs. Which would be the difference! The marketplace being built is not INTENDED for drugs. Same with any marketplace. But the silk road was purely for illicit product.
What’s the evidence to support this claim? I always thought Silk Road was just built as an anonymous marketplace facilitating payments with digital gold. The market decided that the best use case for this was drugs.
Yea agree Ross create the marketplace it wasn’t intended for any specific good or service, the drug dealers were the early Silk Road adopters.
Evidence is, my friend trafficked drugs on the silkroad, lost 5,000$ when the site got taken down. He showed me it. There was not one single non-drug related item for sale.
Saying the Silk Road was only for drugs is like saying bitcoin in those days was only for drugs. Both were just early adopters of Silk Road and bitcoin. It was just the first use case. If Silk Road was still around it could have grown beyond that use case just like bitcoin has.
If a Nostr marketplace was completely uncensored it is reasonable to believe that the same type of market would emerge first.
That's definitely not true, I bought non-drug related things. But also drugs.
The most sold items on Silk Road was books, not drugs 🙄
Preach 🙏
Not too mention, weather there is a marketplace or not. People could easily just organize deals in dm like Instagram. So marketplace or not it will happen. Which takes away any logic from Wills point 😤
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I’m not intimidated at all, he is doing his own things and that is great, thats what nostr is good at. I’m raising a valid concern that would make me hesitant of building a marketplace. Unmoderated marketplaces is just giving appstores a huge reason to take down his and my app. Weird that you are reading my post this way unless you are just trying to cause drama for no reason.
Would it be possible to build a marketplace on Damus that excludes (filters) illegal items?
I would build it into my desktop client, seems too risky for damus unless there was some insanely censored setup which I don’t feel like dealing with
Fair enough. Probably better to let the smaller Nostr apps take the risk and see what happens to them.
I could imagine it would be possible to filter out illegal listings with some sort of user voting system, similar to community notes on Twitter.
That’s just a game of whack-a-mole. All it takes one time for an App Store reviewer to open up the app, see something illicit for sale, and bam, app is gone forever.
That's a good point. It could risk the whole app. Luckily, there will probably be other Apple developers willing to take on the risk for the rest of us.
Now that iOS has push notification support for PWAs, I think that’s the future. Relying on Apple’s goodwill is not going to work out for freedom tech.
Agreed. Hopefully, PWA is the solution that makes the app store obsolete.
Wishful thinking. If you truly care about decentralization, you should not be using iOS. Apple's phone OS is the biggest centralizing force in tech right now.
Other Apple products are fine. You can use a MacBook and care about decentralization (you can still side-load apps into MacOS). The iOS is just a very hard no right now.
Yeah William’s is a philosophical argument, yours is a practical one. As someone who has launched several apps to the Apple App Store, I can confirm that if they see an insufficiently moderated marketplace during review they will reject the shit out of it.
But your concern isn't valid. With or without marketplace people can still conduct drug trade in dm, same with Instagram or any platform. Your just spreading Fud. Keep your eyes on your project instead of working about other projects. Do you think Samsung makes posts on there social media about how Apple conducts business? No lol.