You need a VPN to use nostr? Basically?

I know it's best practice and all that generally, yes yes. But really adds another barrier to entry here? No? It's also a monetary barrier on top of that.

I mean, at least it sort of partly does away with the line that 'we need more normies on nostr'...? 🤔

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#amethyst does a great job at simplifying the process. Is amethyst + that orbot thing (solely) good enough? 🤔

What is that orbot thing

It's some sort of tor ....thing lol (I know nothing). On android. If you're on amethyst you can see the Tor option in settings and it's mentioned there

yess that's fine! It uses Tor and Vpn both

. Download Orbot

. Click connect

done

what i would rec is additionally:

.click on "choose apps" and adding all your Nostr, Bitcoin/Lightning, privacy chat apps in there

of all your other non opensource and surveillance apps on your phone most probably will not work properly with orbot (your browser, a simple google, government things, online banking etc).. so best to only lrt it run for relevant apps as i listed above

and dont forget to login again and then enable tor, also for other apps that have that function (e.g. some bitcoin lightning apps like Phoenix)

Ah, to be an android user 😔

I don't even know what I'm doing if that helps

But you have the option to do something. That’s something.

Don't worry, I'll manage to fuck it up.

Sorry, I don't feel like I'm helping 🫂

😂

Are there literally no solutions for apple users? Surely not? Or maybe they cost? 🤔

No, I was referring to tunnel splitting. Ie using a vpn or orbit for specific apps. On iOS when using orbot or vpn it’s a system wide thing.

If you could access my webcam you'd see me nodding in complete ignorance

😂 On android, you can choose which apps to run through a vpn “tunnel”. When I turn on my vpn all my apps are running through the “tunnel”.

oh that sounds annoying as hell

Sucks wet garbage.

best time to buy an android phone was 15 years ago

second best time is now

The family is my limiting factor…..my wife will never leave Apple.

GIVE ME PRIVACY OR GIVE ME CONVENIENCE.

*My family also chose subpar-mediocre products

😂🤝

u dont have to ditch your iphone

u can also just have an extra sovereignty dedicated android for emergencies at hand

what tata said

You'll also look like a cool drug dealer with your second nostr phone

Babe what’s that? That’s my burner honey. Just in case.

Nostr Report: nostr cited as reason for divorce

😂

That’s true. I haven’t really considered that.

Amethyst keeps winning lol:)

Not sure about a desktop solution to this problem 🤔 for those of us on zero budget

a free service is ProtonVPN (both available in app and on desktop)!

you can only connect to 3 countries, so if something is censored in all those countries you cannot reap the benefits of VPN (next to covering your IP, bypassing geoblockages is the main usage of VPN rly)

Yeah Ive used that a few times to watch Tubi, has some data limits on Free. Not sure I've ever exceeded, but never really used mush

ooh did not know that

Although as a positive spin.. 'you need a VPN to use nostr' does add a sort of cyber wild west mystique maybe?;)

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u technically dont *need* VPN or Tor, you can also just rawdog it.. nothing *has* to change in comparison to what u did before if you dont want or see the need too

it's just many people arent even aware their IP is by default exposed when online - if the dangers of exposing your IP isn't relevant for your personal digital threat model you can just ignore it 🤍

I think most people are aware of this.

However.

I wouldn't want to be explaining to someone I could potentially onboard that a troll is posting IP addresses, cos that doesn't usually happen on social media lol.

But again it's not the end of the world. But it does add another layer of explanation and probably one that isn't 'normie' -friendly.(?)

yess i agree, for sure

but then again, on Twitter you could also use a Tor proxy in settings and get on Twitter via an onion link.. not many ppl knew dis but the ppl who are meant to hear it will hear it or find it themselves

in the bitcoin sphere and esp on Odells timeline there's just a heightened awareness of privacy tools.. the demographics attracted to his account is not ppl with disinterested for digital hygiene per se

it does yess hehe

youre basically on the deep dark web with Tor

super shadowy cypher stuff

No, you don't need a VPN to use nostr, the vpn just add privacy if you need to

Sure you don't NEED to but it seems to be unanimously recommended?

beetcorn

🌽

It's more recommended to use a VPN on other social media because they are full of trackers and cookies who are using your ip address and location for targeting ads and more, we don't have all that on nostr and i hope we never have it, so you don't really need it here except if you want absolute privacy

I think the point is that you need a VPN to improve your privacy on Nostr as at first glance it might give you the false impression that it's already built in