Yeah, but this is the same argument of futility that is used against moralists of any religion. Sure YOU will follow your God's rules but, at least a few people won't.
Yes, but *I* won't and that's all that matters to me. Even if 99.9999% of other people steal, I won't because I have my own morality.
then get consensus to change consensus rules instead of virtue signalling
It's not my place to tell others what to do with their machines either. That's the beauty of anarchy. I do what I want, and you do you.
your filters don't work and the tx will end up in the block regardless, its literally virtue signalling. it has no technical merit, it's not even an effective protest.
I don't think you understand my position. Is it virtue signaling if a mafia member walks up to me and tells me to pass a package full of bribes to the guy standing next to me? Especially if I refuse and he just hands it to the next guy who gladly does it for him?
I. DONT. WANT. TO. BE. INVOLVED.
That is my point. I will not be a relay point for things I don't approve of. I don't care if you do.
you are involved, you relay the block the tx is in
Not sure if that's a fair point, because at that point nostr:nprofile1qqsd68ua2qk8j5wlgl503mfyt69l5f8haqkz3uvnnx50pe6tqcgn5ggpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq32amnwvaz7tmwdaehgun9d35hgetn9ehhyecpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgpjw3m8 doesn't have a choice, aside from forking bitcoin entirely.
right, which is why I call it virtue signalling. you can't stop other people from sending consensus valid transactions full stop.
best we can do is discourage abuse of the network. and filters are not effective at that, and create other bad side effects like pushing people to non-p2p relay which harms the censorship resistance of the network.
I feel like the use of Virtue signaling implies that I am trying to send a signal by my actions, when I am just acting. Throwing a ball is not a signal that others should also throw balls.
I think it could only really be reasonably construed as virtue signalling if the person is actively trying to be part of a tribe, that being the supposedly virtuous one. If they are mostly keeping to themselves then it can't be virtue signalling.
If people are choosing to bypass nodes and rely on non-p2p relay, would that not represent a cost?
Asking out of curiosity, not because I have much of a dog in this fight.
Lol, a block with mined trasactions and an unconfirmed transaction are not the same thing.
In my previous analogy if someone tells me "Hey those bribes got delivered"
and someone asks me: "did those bribes get delivered?"
I would still say yes, because I am not a liar either.
Also, I am not protesting that others follow my moral code. I just am not going to do the thing, and no one can make me do it.
