I'm 50/50 too.
I have forgone assimilating this data until I am certain about the flat-earth hypothesis.
intriguing nonetheless.
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the lie is the littlest problem for me
maybe knocking at the fence
people leaving trough antarctica
finding new lands ?
i just think they try how far they can go with the lie
if that comes out, this lie
nobody would trust authoritize anymore ?
isnt that a big loos for the deception powers ?
A lie holds the illusion.
The āBig Bangā still requires a Big Banger - so thereās no reason to nullify the existence of God, which then invalidates the entire straw man set up here to knock down a spherical Earth hypothesis. Thereās no reason to believe Flat Earthers when their best defense is almost always centered on the straw man structures used for the exact same fallible arguments of atheist evolutionists against the existence of God.
Mind you, Iām not even arguing for a spherical Earth here. Iām simply pointing out the stupidity of this manner of arguing for a Flat Earth. Do better next time.
So, I'm agnostic. This is an honest question and not some sort of "gotcha!". Why the big bang requires a big banger, but god requires no creator? God is eternal, but how or why? Maybe the universe is eternal and it goes from big bang to big crunch eternally.
If I presume what you mean by the Big Bang is the typical scientific definition, then the Big Bang is creation of nothing to something. Non-material, non-existence to material existence. (And no need to argue down the rabbit holes of string theory or multi-dimensional universe theories - thatās just adding pointless layers of recursion on top of the primary point here.)
God is not defined in material terms, so there need not be anything preceeding God. It is from God which all things, whether immaterial, material, or spiritual come from. In Christian parlance: āIn the beginning, Godā¦ā
Hope that helps frame for you my original argument. š¤
Oh, and to address your āBig Bang to Big Crunch ad infinitumā idea: that would require a mathematically impossible level of order and design (based on even the most generous age of the universe of -14.6B yrs; and it could be as little as several thousand years depending on your level of interpretation of the Bible) to BOTH events, infinitely, which essentially requires a God untethered to any universe to keep such a cycle from collapsing into full random nothingness.
Nice shot.
That makes me wanna get a telescope.
https://shop.astronomerswithoutborders.org/products/awb-onesky-reflector-telescope
The rings change throughout the year, so if the earth is engineered, that is, too.
But I smoked cigars with this guy who had wild tales of riding on a big, white rocket-powered glider thing with his coworkers, and he assured me the earth was round because he got going fast enough to fall and not hit it for a few days.
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