Wait until i share the amount. Will await until it hits 100 confirmations, then you should have an idea of their cashflow situation
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Discussion
You shouldn’t use custodial wallet
I take full responsibility but will be making that point with a real example.
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I recently learned that you can’t move sats from Umbrel Lightning Node back to Umbrel OnChain Wallet. So I moved from Umbrel Lightning to Strike, then back to Onchain. Keep us posted on your progress. Praying it all gets to the intended place 🤙🏻
What do you mean by that Chris? Can you be more specific? You can always move off-chain - on-chain. E.g closing channels, looping out etc.
I recently accumulated sats on my Umbrel Lightning Node (noncustodial wallet) and when I tried to move the sats to my Umbrel Onchain Wallet in preparation of opening a lightning channel, I couldn’t do it. I tried using Zeus and it sent preexisting onchain funds to myself. Then tried with directly on my Umbrel and got and error saying the onchain address wasn’t a good address. Maybe I did something wrong, but the only way I could move Onchain was
to move through another lighting wallet. I used Strike to accomplish this. I had posted a Note about it this hoping someone would point out my error, but no one did. Have you done this? I thought it should be possible.
You need to loop out of Lightning via Loop or Boltz or you can just close a channel with funds on your side. Either of these actions will put sats back on-chain. I do this often. I use Thunderhub to do it. I use Boltz via Thunderhub. I also have used peerswap, but this is more advanced and more technical. Let me know if you need help doing a swap.
Thanks Derek but as far as my tech skills go, these funds were just sitting on my Bitcoin wallet on my Umbrel, i just sent them to my WOS and went through, they are still pending while multiple confirmations occurred from WOS side.
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Jeebus.
Totally agree with nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 on this
You can loop-out from the channel or you can rebalance.
I use bolts for loop out and ride the lightning for rebalance. Thunderhub is a good option when it comes to managing lightning node and opening/closing channels.
Do you really think WoS has liquidity issues? 🤐😱
Well so far that's how it looks but the amount which i will share later would be a little shameful
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Any updates?
217 confirmations on-chain and no credit yet. I wrote to nostr:npub1hcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usj4h9rq yesterday, DM'd them on Nostr but no reply yet.
Nostriches, so far i stay hopeful, why? Only because they have proven to be first movers on Nostr. I will give them 48 hours. After that, if nothing happens, there will be absolutely no hope for custodial wallets.
✋🏻 i know i know "you shouldn't have used a custodial wallet". In my opinion, it would be a step back to mass adoption. Most do not have the technical skills for self custody.
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Hate to here that friend. I hope it eventually shows up. This is a
scary situation to say the least. 🫂
Have you also emailed them?
nostr:npub1hcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usj4h9rq please don’t turn out to be a bad actor.
I did yesterday. It would be a shame indeed
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Please tell me it’s not a huge amount.
Though regardless of amount this sucks.
7.3M to be exact. Some was for Nostr devs i wanted to support, some was for my upcoming trips, some was for temporary parking.
I mean if their cashflow can't handle 2000 usd.
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Faaaaa that’s a big number.
What do you mean their cash flow can’t handle $2K? You are giving them the money, not withdrawing it.
It’s seems like a technical issue rather than anything else.
I don't trust the withdrawal now, feels like a rug pull. But i hope you're right.
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Any update from them yet?
Just got credited but withdrew it all.
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Oh nice that’s a relief. Still fishy though.
Did you ever get any responses from WOS throughout this ordeal?
They replied to my email, they asked to which address i sent the funds to. 12h later funds were credited but got no more replies after that, so not sure if they did it or if the system simply did.
Either way, i'm out of WOS, that was not cool!
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What is the purpose to use them to begin with if you run your own node? 🤔
Zaps!! LN address, they were honestly first movers on Nostr.
Or else no other particular reasons, i try and test everything in the ecosystem and i know i'll leave money on the table.
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Oh but You can do the same thing with other non custodial wallets like Zeus
Yes, i actually do but never got to make it work reliably on mobile as i am constantly on the move. Will revisit.
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You can also use Alby in a non-custodial way and have them handle all the nwc and “front end” stuff and have the sats sent to your node.
Also easily connects with Zeus.
You can a LNURL with nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm and then connect it with your node. That’s the easiest 👍🏻😁
I have a Lightning Node and a GetAlby custodial wallet and I use Zeus to access both. How do you connect GetAlby to personal node though? Currently I don’t think one is connected to the other. 🤙🏻
Read carefully. Instructions are a little outdated i think, s as you can more use REST URI and don't need to include the certificate, just the macaroon
All of the information you need to set it up is in your lndconnect URL which will look like this:
lndconnect://xxxxxx.onion:8080?cert=yyyyyy
It helps to use a text editor to separate the elements so you can paste them into the Alby node connect interface. 
Uptime and personal preference. If your node is down your zaps will fail. I’ve done it both ways and found using nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm custodially to be faster and very reliable but I always sweep my sats to my node when I have more than $10 worth of sats.
This has been my mindset as well. But was just looking to learn the process. 🤙🏻
Definitely not cool and is of concern. I like nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm for NOSTR zapping and nostr:npub1ex7mdykw786qxvmtuls208uyxmn0hse95rfwsarvfde5yg6wy7jq6qvyt9 for buying sats, but try not to let them build up on either wallet. I know you had a specific case where you needed a large number of sats on dns custodial wallet though. Just glad it all settled out correctly eventually.🤙🏻
What a relief! 😅 Let’s not do that again. Please tell us if you get a response back.
nostr:npub18kpw3akvdsyk239lx0jgwksr74sq4nlha3r8u9g2rnrhztfpfhysy469c4 just went on a rant about nostr:npub1hcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usj4h9rq
nostr:note1qv5qgyg0t4chpmmcg0f5z2t6uxk0kg3egeasa5n6ptrrnqh6trqsug973e
Well shit 💩 if that’s the case are we looking at boycotting WoS?
MARCHOFFTWITTER was a few months ago
August month will it be AbandoningWalletofSatoshi?
I think the big problem is how quiet they’ve been.
Even sinking companies will say some messed up shit to project all is in good order.
Guess best move to do is to try to withdraw what ever yall can to another wallet. Drain them.
Exactly. Them being quiet does not sound like a tech issue.
I'm glad i could face these issues for every Nostrich to see 🤙🏻
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Did your funds ever show up onchain friend?