Bitcoin is a shitcoin
-Slow
-Expensive
-Seized by exchanges for mixing
-Complex layer 2
-Layer 2 Requires large deposits
-Blockstream is in charge. it's NOT decentralized
-Not actually used in the real world
-Blockstream ruined it to sell their layer 2 solution
If you're just promoting the CIA's agenda, what's the purpose of Nostr?
the charge. it the Requires you're of Bitcoin purpose is in their NOT ruined just is Nostr? mixing
-Complex layer agenda, promoting the layer actually used exchanges large by in sell 2
-Layer world
-Blockstream deposits
-Blockstream it's decentralized
-Not for real a 2 2 solution
If what's to shitcoin
-Slow
-Expensive
-Seized CIA's
lol
I was on the fence for a long time about using your products. Thank you for revealing yourself and making that decision easy.
Mullvad is dumping it on exchanges when you give it to them. We're trying to actually create a parallel economy here. It's people being "toxic" as you self-describe that are the larger issue.
The CIA and Blockstream seized control, wrecked the layer-1, to sell their layer 2. And any alternative outside blockstream's control is being labeled a shitcoin.
It's not logical to go with the government's side of the issue, (oppressing real world use), for a vendor to protect you from the same government
Trashing bitcoin and promoting multiple shitcoins. I was curious once upon a time but glad I kept my sats too.
Just shill Monero here in the comments. We know you want to
Monero "shills" itself, money so good it succeeds in spite of it's rejection.
Purpose is not to promote monero. It's avoiding a return to fractional reserve banking
Blockstream seized control, wrecked the layer-1, to sell their layer 2. And any alternative outside blockstream's control is being labeled a "shitcoin".
2017 called, they want their lame bcash arguments back.
Nobody really wants to go back to 2017, so let me give you some 2025 BCash info.
Bcash - 21M max supply
Bcash - Created by Satoshi
Bcash - is lightning fast, no need for centralized fixes.
Bcash - has a layer 1 stablecoin.
Bcash - has layer 1 tokenization
Bcash - EXCELLENT, User friendly and complete ecosystem.
Bitcoin - totally useless as day to day money.
Bitcoin - has nothing in common with the functionality described in the whitepaper.
Bitcoin - instead of replacing a corrupt banking system, it has been coopted by it.
Bitcoin - it's most famous proponent thinks self-custody is for fools.
Basically Bitcoin Cash already DOES everything bitcoiners wish Bitcoin could do.
Cry harder, loser.
Very true. Please consider that bch is still being banned from commerce by the btccommunityy; not avail on Bitrefill, BTCPay, Bisq and others, but the technology and social dynamics have moved on from 2017. Bch is on solid uptrend since 2023.
In the past year alone 3 DEXs have started uo and have strong followings; RetoSwap, BasicSwap, Cauldron and likely others. These DEXs include bch (and btc) RetoSwap is heard to be doing more business than Bisq after only 1 year!
The winds are changing. People want fast, cheap transactions. Monero inows this, Litecoin knows this, Bitcoin Cash knows this.
Bitcoin only knows Michael Saylor's leverage. 
That sounds like a lot of excuses for “we forked and lost.”
You seem unable to come up with any rational arguments, other than 1 BTC = $XXX,XXX USD.
I could give two shits regarding the fork. I keep my eyes out for cryptocurrencies that are secure, good privacy, easy to use and transact with low fees, have a history of trustworthiness.
Your only criteria seems to be that it's Bitcoin, no matter what bitcoin is. Because while the layer 1 has strong features, it need for layer 2s & 3s greatly reduce it's overall value (to the degree that self-custody, a founding principle, is a minor or non-existent feature) and vastly increase the complexity of it's usage.
Blah blah blah… your shitcoin is down over 98% against BTC since its launch. You lost, end of discussion.
You & all your B-sheep friends would follow bitcoin off a cliff.
Colleague at work told BSV is the solution that scares the crap out of 'the system', not BCH. Care to refute...? I'm in the BTC camp myself, but always curious to 'the other side's arguments'.
The last time I looked into BSV their social media site was intriguing, it had "zaps" several years ago. But, they seemed more focused on corporate / business use of blockchain more than functioning as money.
I was in love with BTC as decentralized, p2p money, told everyone about it, learned about lightning, but then the mining fees jumped up and my funds were virtually unusable. It was like dealing with a bank, but it was "bankless" money.
I'm currently having some issues opening a lightning channel as I want to pull out some sats I mined with Ocean. I have made a Bolt12 offer ready, but need to open a small channel to pull out the mined funds, but 100000 sats channels don't seem to be a thing it seems?
Hence my favoritism toward BCH.
21 million max, sha256, etc. It is bitcoin. But, it is 100% usable as P2P electronic cash, all on layer 1. No need for LN, or Cashu, or Liquid, or whatever mumbo jumbo product the Bitcoin community is trying to hoc this week to solve Bitcoin's "scaling problem".
Bitcoin Cash IS Lightning Fast!
zapping without permission
easy, even old guys can do it
Even I will argue that even though bitcoin is slow and retatded, it is not a shitcoin. But, literally everything associated with it is, all the centralized layer 2 & 3 BS needed to make it work.
If you think Bitcoin is a shitcoin, you don't understand the problem it fixes.
The problem it fixes is fractional reserve banking and central banking, with a trustless solution.
But the problem it created is Blockstream seized control, wrecked the layer-1, to sell their layer 2. And any alternative outside blockstream's control is being labeled a shitcoin.
That is the problem of the current world that it fixes yet. But it also fixes debasement of the supply which is equally important. If you don't understand that then I understand why you wouldn't value it.
Yeah, and... ? I'm not disputing Bitcoin being a potential store of value. I'm disputing blockstream capping the blocksize, so it has low value as real world cash. Layer 2 is complex and most people aren't going to do it.
Can you do it as a hobby? Sure. That's a hobby. I'm NOT disputing bitcoin, only the "bitcoin only"
You called Bitcoin a shitcoin, it is not.
The word (and value) is subjective. I was being purposefully hyperbolic, to show how it is done to other coins by it's community. If I offended you, sorry. I hope the lesson is to not use the word on either side
The ultimate store of value is the ultimate layer 1. Bitcoin is that ultimate store of value, so it is the ultimate layer 1.
Monero used as the store of value layer is not as good as Bitcoin.
If monero users believe monero's privacy benefit and tail emissions outweighs the Bitcoin networks auditable nature and halving-driven store of value I would argue they are incorrect.
If monero was simply used as a better than FIAT alternative for its perceived privacy benefit, similar to how a user might choose to use the liquid or lightning networks on Bitcoin for greater privacy, than effectively it's being used as a layer 2 for value transfer which is perfectly fine.
I agree with you Bitcoin's transparent nature makes it more trustworthy for a store of value. And if you want to do layer-2 as a hobby, that's fine.
But when you start doing the "bitcoin only" routine is when you turn into an oppressor. Because the layer-2 has issues that the average person isn't going to do, and so it turns back into custodial fractional reserve banking. The layer-2 is much more easily controlled, and that's why the government literally favors Bitcoin. Monero is better designed for cash. I'm NOT saying "monero only". I'm saying let people decide for themselves
*fixes yes
