In the last 72hrs over 1,000,000+ users have downloaded the app UpScrolled and they didn’t download Primal? I’d love to hear your opinion on this massive marketing failure.

Primal =

No view counter, zero engagement for new users, zero reason to stay and continue posting on this platform. No one wants to talk to themselves.

https://blossom.primal.net/b0e7821147dee65c656da23b04edf74f041368b153cf28b981992f056f3e9cb6.mov

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Um primal fucking sucks n e ways lol

As long as it remains centralized, I’m not interested. Free speech will only be truly free if you align with the platform’s values, and we’ve seen this happen many times on social media. So, if this platform really becomes a serious competitor (which I doubt for now), they’ll likely restrict some content as well.

I think Nostr / Primal won’t achieve global adoption because normies want an easy login with email and password and don’t care about true ownership of their content, just because they don’t see its significance.

The fact that it has a CEO means it will eventually be coopted.

We'll be building over here in the meantime.

A CEO will be coopted, but it's the only way you have to seriously push the tech you think the world needs.

CEOs are good. They are there to do the things you will never be able to

I don't disagree at all. It's the protocol that their service is built on that matters.

Nostr makes sense in that regard, and social media is just one application of the protocol.

Yes. What i'm saying is that CEOs also matter, because they have the incentive to push adoption of the protocol.

If you leave that to a bunch of nerds you'll get nowhere. This is not bitcoin.

No CEOs -> nostr ded

Nostr should always be attractive for the 1% who care about permissionlessness and censorship resistance. CEOs are needed to build things that will attract other potential users.

I have primal but could not recommend. It doesn't work on the desktop. I lost all my following list and had the redo that manually. After sub finishes I will try something new

sorry to hear about the following list! since you're premium, we back that up for you. go to premium--> manage premium--> contact list back up and you can restore.

Upscrolled will probably be dead soon and nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnsv9ex2ar09e6x7amw5254wh will still be here. They just keep plugging along making nostr better and better. Every time I see a video of the primal staff they seem happy. Seems like winning to me.

You have valid points.

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we didn't capitalize on the various times we've had momentum. it'll swing around again, but it's hard to manufacture it. some tweaks in the app will help bigtime.

will be interesting to see if you're still posting on upscrolled in a couple months or if it's just a hypewave. it's literally just another trust me bro freespeech app with a ceo that people are aligned with. would be rad if they built this on nostr without saying it.

Reach out. I'm pretty sure they are right now very interested in it being uncensorable. And as long as they are not yet building for an exit strategy, you might convince them.

I'm here to chat by myself. So what now?