You know that's the same 1 guy right?

I don't think bitcoin has won. If it failed tomorrow I'd still be OK (although disappointed)

I think this "discussion" started when you rightly pointed out that liquid is not anonymous. I just think that monero is a sh$tcoin & you seem to be very attached to the need for monero. I think that if you use bitcoin with coinjoins, private lightning channels soon to be pay join or post mix stonewalls you have good enough privacy. So I don't need to look at monero for now.

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there is no reason to believe a single thing that comes out of a bitcoin maximalist's mouth about the privacy of the lightning network when not a single DNM has adopted the lightning network.

DNM?

their job isn't to convince you or me that lightning is sufficiently private. their job is to convince darknet market administrators. and they have totally failed.

Maybe they just prioritize sh$tcoins.

Still early days my friend. State attacks might just create the push for more private LN channels

this cargo cult talk doesn't make the world go round