A diet based solely on meat can have certain health effects, some of which can be problematic. It’s important to be aware of these aspects:

1. Nutritional Deficiencies: A strictly carnivorous diet may lead to deficiencies in fiber, vitamins, and essential minerals traditionally obtained from plant-based foods.

2. Lack of Fiber: Meat lacks fiber, and insufficient fiber intake can affect digestive health and contribute to constipation.

3. Digestive Issues: Excessive meat consumption can cause digestive discomfort, such as indigestion or acidity problems.

4. Cardiovascular Risks: A diet rich in meat, especially processed or high in saturated fats, may increase the risk of cardiovascular diseases.

5. Impact on the Renal System: Excessive protein intake, especially from meat, can put additional strain on the kidneys.

6. Weight Maintenance Challenges: A meat-only diet can be challenging to sustain in the long term and may lead to difficulties in maintaining a healthy body weight.

A balanced diet that includes a variety of foods can bring long-term health benefits.

Human evolution has played a significant role in developing the capacity for humans to consume and digest both meat and vegetables. Several aspects highlight the evolutionary adaptations that have contributed to this capability:

1. Human Dentition: Human teeth reflect an evolutionary compromise between adaptation to both meat and plant consumption. We have both molars, efficient in grinding plant foods, and canines, which can contribute to meat consumption.

2. Digestive Tract: The human digestive tract has evolved to digest both meat, requiring proteolytic enzymes for protein breakdown, and plant foods, requiring enzymes for carbohydrate breakdown.

3. Cooking Capability: The use of fire and cooking has been a key innovation in human evolution. This allowed the efficient processing and consumption of both meat and vegetables, enhancing the availability of nutrients.

4. Dietary Knowledge: Human communities have gained dietary knowledge over time, learning to combine food resources, including vegetables and meat, to achieve a balanced diet.

5. Adaptability to Diverse Environments: Human adaptability to diverse environments has favored a diverse diet, including both animal and plant protein sources.

In conclusion, human evolution has endowed humans with a digestive system and adaptability that make them capable of consuming both meat and vegetables, reflecting a diverse and adaptable diet suited to different environmental conditions and available food resources.

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Nah, plants will leave you difficient. Fiber is not something we can digest at all, and it is the cause of most gut issues. People eat fiber & even clay in many cultures because in extreme poverty some food + a full stomach is better than a mostly empty one.

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an interesting fact about fibre and animal products is that milk sugars are converted into fibre in the gut when the sugar is beyond requirements, goat milk especially - and it also has a lot of vitamin C in it

i personally find that if i eat large amounts of fats in a meal that i get diarrhea ... unless i add some form of fibre, the milk works great but the sugar in it doesn't help my blood sugar, so i mix one or two teaspoons of powdered psyllium husk into yogurt and add 50% cream and it is doing wonders for my energy levels

The statement contains some inaccuracies. Firstly, milk sugars (lactose) are not converted into fiber in the gut. Fiber is a type of carbohydrate found in plant-based foods, and lactose is a sugar specific to dairy products. The digestion of lactose primarily occurs in the small intestine with the help of the enzyme lactase.

Secondly, while goat milk does contain lactose, it does not naturally contain significant amounts of vitamin C. Vitamin C is more commonly associated with fruits and vegetables. Goat milk does provide various nutrients, including calcium and protein, but it's not considered a significant source of vitamin C.

oh yes, also, there is nutritional value in dirt - a small amount in the gut carries many very beneficial bacteria, and a special kind of dirt, diatomaceous earth, is lethal to GI worms of all kinds and dramatically reduces their population

Neither of you are correct. Diets are not one size fits all. People need to listen to their body and eat what works best for them. Some people handle certain diets better than others.

The first time I did carnivore I did it for 5 weeks. My cholesterol actually went down but 75% of the time I had diarrhea. Once I introduced fiber, I had normal shits 100% of the time. I tried carnivore 2 more times and had the same result.

I’ve settled on a meat based diet with beans, fruit, and minimal veggies mixed in, and it works for me.

That being said, I’ve never tried, and never will try, a fully plant based diet because it lacks nutrients and doesn’t give you satiety. We need meat to be healthy, but that doesn’t mean everyone should only eat meat.

My hypothesis is that the diet your body responds to is a direct result of where your ancestors are from (i.e., Greek/italian ancestry will respond best to a Mediterranean diet). Idk if this is true, but it would make sense.

Some people struggle with the gut trasition longer than others. Fasting first or yogurt can sometimes help. There is some evidence to suggest a lot of people suffer from oxalate dumping which is best delt with by consuming relatively low oxalate plants foods & then slowly removing them over time. I don't think there is anyone who couldn't eventually thrive on carnivore, but how long it might take to get there definitely varies.

I did eat yogurt when I did carnivore as I kept dairy products as part of the diet. After 5 weeks it just wasn’t worth continuing for me when I realized I could just mix in fruit and beans, feel just as good, and have the same health markers. I’m not denying everyone can thrive on a carnivore diet after a certain amount of time, but if you can get the same results without dealing with diarrhea for more than a month just by eating a couple other natural foods, then why not just do that. Having the runs for 5 weeks is not fun, but I will eventually try carnivore again and keep your points in mind.

Ultimately, what I believe it really boils down to is just completely removing ultra processed foods and added sugars from your diet, not eating beyond satiety, and getting all necessary nutrients (which meat is essential for).

We're omnivores, sir. You got that right.

Try and convince an italian to stop consuming pasta. I dare you.

Pasta + sea food*😁

pasta has only been on the menu since it came back from china about 500 years ago, and tomatoes, capsicum, etc... yeah, 400 years since they arrived

what the romans ate was a lot different

and it's not for nothing the cliche of the fat italian man with the pizza

having said that, the old italian houses with the hot stone wood fired ovens are amazing ways to cook pizza

it's just not healthy for humans to eat more than about 10% of their diet based on grains, a little is ok but the USDA food pyramid is upside down... fats... protein... fruit and veg, and then grains is the right priority ordering

also, pizza made with a base of unleavened bread on a super hot stone wood fired oven is in line with the correct proportion when you have a good amount of meats and cheeses on top

the word "pizza" means pie and pies are supposed to have crunchy thin crusts not giant thick bread bases like modern ones