Archeologists claim this was done with simple stone tools and that these societies were not advanced.

Yet this would be insanely difficult to do today. I find the claim hard to swallow considering how little else that wasn’t stone would survive for thousands of years.

Just think about metal for instance. Would any metal last multiple thousands of years? I’ve seen an old truck rust into basically a crumbling pile of nothing. Would we really be able to tell if they had metal or other more advanced machinery and devices? 🤔🤔

Interesting thought experiment at least. I think we presume to know *way* more than we actually do. nostr:note16c5k9mq5vnpa7qs4qntx3ruhaypqxre277yues30mxzg2xsqpjushvyfuy

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lol, I adhere to the more simple model of “just because it was thousands of years ago doesn’t mean it wasn’t an advanced civilization.” I think it’s possible and that there are events which could cause us to lose the overwhelming majority of our technology and for a society to collapse into the Stone Age and basically “reset.” Arguably, the more advanced a society becomes, the more complex it becomes, and thus the more specialized, the more vulnerable it would be to total failure by losing only a portion of the population.

Example: lets say making a pencil requires 5 distinct steps and 5 distinct skills. if we have 5 guys who have the knowledge and skills to individually do all 5 steps to make the pencil, but 3 of those guys die. Well the 2 remaining guys can still each make a pencil.

But if we have 5 guys who all only know a single step of making the pencil. If 3 of them die, the remaining 2 can only complete 2/5ths of the process and thus, no more pencils.

The internet and our communications technology has made us collectively, VASTLY more knowledgeable, capable, and productive. But *individually* it has made us extremely specialized, ignorant, and incapable. It’s like we are becoming one giant organism with a collective brain, and each person (cell) only does its singular job. And we are doing those jobs to create a “brain” (internet). But that means that the more we become dependent on that “brain,” then the entire civilization dies if we ever lose it, or lose access to it. Our knowledge is increasingly not written on paper or stone or wood, but in bytes on a digital drive. Could there not be an event that wiped them all out completely at the same time? What would we be left with? How many would die?

Like going from single celled organisms to single cells inside a much larger organism - The cells used to be able to survive on their own, but after they become an organism, without the entire thing thriving, none of the individual cells can survive without it. If that is actually a transition we are going through in a sense, what if it happened before but the “organism” had a massive brain failure and we had to start over?

Let alone the possibility of an asteroid, super volcano, or the huge number of other disasters that could alter the entire structure of society and cause it all to break down.

Makes me wonder what the “reset threshold” is vs the complexity or size of the society. 🤔

And of course… it could be aliens 😂

(We hope you enjoyed this Guy’s much-too-long-response-to-nothing-but-a-meme take)

Oh in totally convinced there was a highly advanced society before the younger dryas impact.

Theres evidence the pyramids were poured in layers as a kind of cement

Like being part of the Borg

As someone said below, it was the the impacts of comet fragments at the beginning and end of the younger dryas period and the absolutely devastating disasters within those 1300 years that basically wiped most of it away. Most, but not all.

the pyramid builders were more advanced than we are today, actually

their edifices survived disasters that none of our tech would have survived either, all of it would have been washed out to sea and crushed under tons of sediment

there is very good reason to believe that all the pyramids they built tapped into energy captured by the earth from the sun and used it to power devices that we most likely have never seen even a fragment of

i personally believe there was humans with computers and an internet operating with entanglement already 13000 years ago, the calculations that we can see being talked about in ancient texts about celestial bodies and their timings and motions that are even more mindblowing than these feats of stonemasonry...

and speaking of this, the calendars of the Maya...

there is hundreds of other points you can dig at but those are just a few

Viewable tool marks lower left.

We've found evidence of humans thousands of years before previously thought, so perhaps earlier iron tools wouldnt be too far a stretch.

have you looked at Barabar, nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RJ3Epd_SXk

They are full of shit.

All washed away according to Graham Hancock's research. I won't be surprised if all those rockets build are also ment to be an Hollywood style escape for when those meteor shower get a wee bit to close. Brilliant ending though during the credits in the 'Don't look up' movie.

There is a good chance that ancient civilizations had machine technology.

In Egypt, evidence of core drills can be found with advance rates comparable to modern times.

They know this because they can count the cutter scratches.

All of this is “overlooked” by modern $cience.

I’ve always been intrigued by technology used by ancient civilizations, that we as a society look down upon just because we can’t understand how.

We assume to know WAY more

As I get older I am really starting to question a lot more

I’ve seen a guy on twitter that’s been researching this topic and he thinks these shapes were not cut from stone but it’s a combination of rock dust and water and some other materials and then were poured into molds

He has done some small scale experiments and they look good.

Subhanallah reminds me how Allah سُبْحَانَهُۥ وَتَعَالَىٰ tells us people existed before us more advanced but they were destroyed due to them rejecting his signs brought by the Prophets...

"Do they not contemplate within themselves? Allāh has not created the heavens and the earth and what is between them except in truth and for a specified term. And indeed, many of the people, in the meeting with their Lord, are disbelievers.

Have they not traveled through the earth and observed how was the end of those before them? They were greater than them in power, and they plowed [or excavated] the earth and built it up more than they [i.e., the Makkans] have built it up, and their messengers came to them with clear evidences. And Allāh would not ever have wronged them, but they were wronging themselves."

Quran 30:8-9

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