in your opinion, what made onboarding on twitter so good, and what specific parts of onboarding in existing nostr clients (take Damus for example play the biggest role in people having second thoughts and drop off?

is it complexity in language, are there too many steps to join, too little, or something missing completely?

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we had terrible onboarding. so bad that we created a manual "suggested users" list, which was effectively king-making. the verified badge followed. all centralized, manual, inherently biased decisions.

search is the only thing that really scaled, and really mattered. more investment in that would have dramatically changed things for the better at Twitter. this is still the case.

the only thing the centralized internet (google, reddit, Facebook, twitter) solved was the discovery problem. solving that for decentralized protocols is a massive win for the free internet.

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thank you so much for the elaborate answer 💜

I’m trying to understand, there currently no good way to search decentralized protocols? Like none?

try to find a specific note of mine mentioning word X from date Y only using damus, snort, coracle or amethyst

• don’t use any external search clients

Yeah doesn’t work. I’m no dev so forgive the dumb questions.

I’m guessing you’re referring to not using nostr.band

Why can’t that be used for search?

What’s holding it back?

analogy:

i’m saying that you wouldn’t go on google to find something that you’d want to find on twitter as you’re using it

Coracles search is pretty good.

I’m not very Smurf but why can’t this be used in clients:

https://advancednostrsearch.vercel.app/

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I understand.

you’re gonna make me code something

Outside of using NOSTR.band this simple thing is so hard to dom should be a part of every client imo

Why no external clients? That’s like every website trying to build their own crappy search engine when they could just plug into Google search.

Don’t threaten me with a good time

Nostr.band and nosWhere are decent tools, but need to be better.

And yet the Internet was never supposed to be centralized; this is what began the downfall.

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And the search came from a company, Summize, which had a real time social search engine which they launched using twitter data. It really made twitter work. Buying summize was one of the critical early decisions at twitter which has been forgotten but was so important.

https://techcrunch.com/2008/07/15/confirmed-twitter-acquires-summize-search-engine/?guccounter=1

Indeed. All possible due to the open api.

Again, it’s nostr’s advantage right now. Every other service is closing down access unfortunately.

I wonder if nostr search should still be centralized for its efficiency advantages, but completely open source so that anyone could spin up an alternative at any time.

“You are here” diagnosis on Damus.

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So much alpha lol