It’s pretty obvious that primal’s priority is developing a client for influencers.

Deleting primal✌️

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I switch back and forth between Primal and Damus. Just copy note ID and paste in the other app search box. Not ideal, but it’s simple enough.

That’s not what I’m complaining about. Did you ever notice that you don’t see all the notifications on primal?

Doesn’t bother me cause I also check notifications on Damus and Jumble. Being able to easily bounce around to any app is what makes Nostr awesome.

It bothers me when the devs say they’ll fix it for nearly 2 years and then just tell you no one wants it and that it’s not a priority

Tbf their team is really small and I’m sure they have a long list of issues to work on. People underestimate how much work is required to build all this stuff.

Honestly haven’t used it in a very long time. Damus ftw

Major credit to nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s for building a superior client without VC backing. Damus had this issue addressed from day one. Primal still can’t get it right. I don’t even believe they understand the problem or they just don’t care.

You should change your nip-05, right? 😁

What’s that?

🧐

How do I change it?

Iris.to or nostrcheck.com have free nip-05 registration

I think I had one with them before

Elites.nostrati.org

I already found a better one 👀

Whatchu find

rizful.com

I got a free custom nip and a lightning wallet. Also have the best domain

You can register a new nip-05 in many places

https://nostr.how/en/guides/get-verified#

Do you even need a nip 05?

Yakihonne's pretty good. Massive improvements they've made.

And bro Nostur is tooooo good. I've only used it on desktop and I love it.

Coracle might be a good fit for your usage patterns, idk

I didn’t even know nostur had a web client wtf. I gotta try it out!

No no desktop not web they don't have web

How do I access it?

Need a macbook for it. The dmg file is there on their GitHub

I don’t have a MacBook lol

Ngl I want Nostur on Android, Windows, web and other platforms as well. Shame that it's Apple-only

I believe it’s one dev building it out that’s why

Goodness me that's goated

There are no excuses for primal who are getting VC money

Yeah I get what you mean. But I've developed a habit of using different clients for different things. One for replies, one for zapping, one for video, etc. It's great that we get to pick and choose from so many options.

They'll also have their ups and downs I think. Like it's been a while since I've used Amethyst because it's a massive drain on my phone's battery and many basic features don't work as they used to anymore.

But notifications are the most basic thing that all clients should have lmao. I’m not asking for complicated features 🤣

Notifs haven't been Primal's strong suit at all sadly

Great for zaps and video playback though

It could be a great client. It’s actually sad because one small bug makes everything great they’re doing worthless.

I don't think they're gonna listen because I don't think they prioritize the little things 😂

They go for the flashy ones like the wallet, live streams, studio, etc.

Their mobile site still takes way too long to load. Like it's actually terrible. I try to share as little of Primal's links as possible.

But yeah, overall a great client for a lot of things.

I got a response from miljan after I made a shitshow out of it lol but why do I have to take it that far?

Just checked. Well-handled by them GG

Reminds me of how they listened to user feedback on the external signer feature and added it, another one of those flashy updates (which I wanted, so no complaints 😂)

Sometimes devs tend to be adamant about the software they build and what they prioritize. I suppose that's normal.

Damus folks straight up said no to external signers and didn't even want to listen. So I just haven't bothered to use it or download it despite waiting for a long time for it to come on Android 😂

We’ll see what happens with the next update but I’m not holding my breath

Man took the time to respond pretty well

Give him something lmao

Oh I appreciate it but I’m not gonna forget the other times when I got no response. I know others who have complained multiple times and gotten no response either. It’s a professional response but motivated by damage control.

That's fair! Hope they get that feature in finally

Massive drain on battery?

I used Amethyst for 1.5 hours actively today and battery drain was 12%

Is it not usual?

Idk I'm going by my phone's battery usage stats

Try the latest version of Amethyst and disable background usage(if active). I don't think you will face massive battery drain.

Data usage, on the other hand, is a different story.

Disabling background usage makes Amethyst perform poorly though

Never a good experience everytime I open the app again

Primal is the perfect nostr client for the kind of person who thinks it is ok to be mean to waiters and janitors.

That’s how it feels talking to the devs as a non shirtless influencer

When I see primal nip05 and primal wallet on an account I'm half way to ignoring that person.

I had forgotten you had to overcome that before I chose to follow you.

nostr:nprofile1qqswum4p82uluhz2dr40nvdrflspffntgqghc58w9fs57nx6jkdkuaqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszythwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmny9uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0nwfqpd how hard would it be to make a mod of zombie hunter to hunt primal users to get all the wannabe influencers and Xitter cross posters out of my feed?

Going hard on Primal and its users? 😂

LMAO, you must have read my mind because I’m building basically that thing right now. It’s going to be called Mutable and you can use it to back up, restore, curate and share mute and unfollow lists.

Feel free to zap with feature requests!

If I was on primal, I wouldn’t even get this notification

Oh that would be disappointing for me because I couldn't figure out a wallet except through primal, but for everything else except zaps I use other clients. I promise I don't repost Twitter trash please guys I'm cool I swear 😭

Hi Kip, it’s fine. Whenever you’re ready to give up the training wheels wallet we’re here to help. 💜⚡️🤙 l

I just switched to rizful.com

You can set up a nip 05 too. Shoutout to nostr:npub1m64hnkh6rs47fd9x6wk2zdtmdj4qkazt734d22d94ery9zzhne5qw9uaks

#nopromo

Oh hey, fellow pleb 🤙

What serendipitous timing for your question! We're currently working and in Beta for a new hot wallet of our own. Details to follow soon.

In the meanwhile, don't forget about our latest deeper than deep cool storage. We've worked with several custodians through the development of our proprietary storage solution, taken the best parts, and built the best!

so excited for the beta

Oopsie, we forgot to attach our hilarious new marketing image. We love to keep it light here, but we're serious about security!

The hottest™ hot wallet ©®

Rizful is the best custodial LN node

terrible name

but super educational and usable

Iz got dat rizz!

I just use #Minibits. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yakihonne has a good inbuilt wallet

I feel brand new 👀

I use Primal and I cross post funny X stuff, of which there is much merriment and mirth 🙄

Do I not amuse you master? 🥹

I don't follow you.

Is that because I use Primal and I cross post funny X stuff, of which there is much merriment and mirth 😂

What the heck is going on here? I feel confused and left out and sad all at the same time. It's teribad.

Primal made design choices that work great for a certain kind of user.

We are not that kind of user.

We do not like that kind of user.

Bullshit. Some of us just aren’t techies 👩🏻‍💻

Fuck Primal. They leave paying customers on read then give you the PR “the stripper loves you” bullshit answer. Primal premium expires at the end of November. They’re not getting anything from me after that

It really feels like that

Notice how he only came in with his PR bullshit once he saw you were pissed off. The image is the only thing that matters

When the feedback is bad & loud.

Like the npubs who only wake up when there’s a zapathon 🤣🤣🤣

Got anymore of that free money?

Yeah I only got a response because I was making noise and people were reacting to it. Squeaky wheel.

Bro, I’ve literally been playing with nostr:npub1yzvxlwp7wawed5vgefwfmugvumtp8c8t0etk3g8sky4n0ndvyxesnxrf8q all day because you got me thinking yesterday. And now I’m here…I’m also done paying for the “Premium” every month. As always, I appreciate all the raw conversations.

I don’t mind paying for something if I feel it’s good value. Don’t see why I should pay for primal when all these other clients are free and mostly better.

Couldn’t agree more.

I recommend Jumble.

Is it android or a web client? I’m on IOS.

Both. I use it through Keychat.

I’m stuck on iOS at the moment unfortunately but I just tried their web app and it’s pretty good

If you download Keychat you should be able to use it. It loads the fastest and I like how you can curate your feed by choosing from individual relays.

Keychat is a nostr client or a chat client?

Thanks Node

Nostr client

Its a web browser

Like Firefox? But for nostr?

Yea it can do nip07 sign ins on mobile

Keychat is the super app for Bitcoiners.

Autonomous IDs, Bitcoin ecash wallet, secure chat, and rich Mini Apps — all in Keychat.

Autonomy. Security. Richness.

A Nostr web app can be used as a Mini App inside the Keychat browser.

So for example, I can run nostrudel inside keychat browser and keychat has my nsec?

Yes, I use keychat for all Nostr web apps, it's exactly like this. Great app. Play #flappynostrich 😂

So keychat for all the web apps. Amber for the native ones

Flappy goes in the keychat 😂

You can log in to Keychat using Amber. Then, use Flappy in the Keychat browser through extension login.

And on iOS does it work with aegis?

Keychat currently does not support login via Aegis.

😂👍

Just had some fun with it. Are you using it on mobile nostr:npub1m64hnkh6rs47fd9x6wk2zdtmdj4qkazt734d22d94ery9zzhne5qw9uaks

Yes, on Android for any Nostr web apps.

Right on. Was a bit choppy for me on iOS.

It's a bit choppier on Keychat. On Android I find Firefox the best, then Chrome, then keychat. On desktop it runs good, my oldest machine I test on is a 2014 MacBook Air, which is okay. I've also noticed issues with brave fwiw.

Good to know. Thanks brotha. I’ll try it out on both and see what happens.

The Keychat Browser is essentially a WebView (built into the operating system). We need to explore how to optimize it.

That makes sense. WebView is usually not as performant as the browser themselves.

He made it lol

🤦‍♂️

In all seriousness, it’s pretty sick. 🫵🏻🤘

🫡

https://jumble.imwald.eu/?page=discussions

nostr:npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl made this. It's nostr reddit, in case you're interested. Funny thing is that Pavle said it was a pointless endeavor🤣🤷. The Primal team may mean well, but their incompetence becomes more apparent every passing day.

Is this different from jumble.social?

Yes. It supports kind 11 events.

Idk what that is but I like jumble.social lol

Honestly, I'm not sure what it is either, but many clients seem prejudice against it.

It's the forum-thread kind, like Chachi and Flotilla use. But their forums are limited to particular community events, and mine are just straight to relays. That's why everyone can see them.

I might add in their communukeys-based threads, as well. We'll see.

It's the same basic software as jumble.social, but I forked it and added a Reddit-like forum, public messaging, and some new default relays like wss://nostr.land and wss://orly-relay.imwald.eu

An, I’ve seen this. Right on. Thanks

The stripper doesn't love me???? He said after college we'd be together... Next you're going to tell me he's not even enrolled.

But seriously I've not heard much good about primal, I'm an amethyst lady because of pixel phone with grapheneOS. It may not be the best client, but I like ut.

They’re not as bad as some people say but they’re definitely not as great as they’d like you to think

I like joining in on the no shirt razzing. Having never used it, I don't have a dog in the fight other than I want people to have a good time on nostr and that's not going to happen if you're set up to follow people who never post and don't engage when they do post.

I don’t like the way they treat the users/customers. Amethyst has a lot of features. I like the thread view

I meant primal for the first sentence lol. Amethyst is fine

Meh everyone's got hate on for amethyst at the moment, I'm not one of them because Cheese man helps me to navigate all the changes.

Primal is a beautiful client from the couple of peeks I've seen.

There’s way better out there

Yakihonne and Damus. All are better than primal

Nostur too

The zapping lightning bolt animation on nostur...I need that 😂. We were trying to onboard some friends, damus wouldn't load any posts and primal was fucked so we ended up with nostur 🤷‍♀️. They didn't stay, but it was worth a shot...

Last friend I onboarded was on Amethyst. Before the update. Now I just have to remember 3 relays max in each section 🤣

Yes and if you're using a vpn turn off tor or your shit will not load.

Good to know

+1

/\/\y *Boy's /\/\O/\/\ waz a strIPpR*****🙃;.;😆

Did you give her money for college?

sp. ☑️

Wait…you worked the poles?

+|- add IT uP 🙃;.;😆

irl, i never went to those places sO there is th@*/*ya

collagen may*B* idk butbutt NA college

Collagen >> butt butt ++ 🤣

/\/thEmirrOr i think *U* r truly a 69R

Good to see that you finally came to your senses👍

Sort of? lol I’m complaining about a simple bug that they don’t want to fix. I don’t think they’re malicious but they seem to be focused on the wrong things

You and many others are beginning to complain more and more about this. Primal is the least nostr-like I've ever seen.

nostr-like client*