I have a lot of respect for Saifedean. I genuinely owe him for single-handedly orange pilling me.

But what I do NOT appreciate is his abrasive attitude.

He’s incredibly knowledgeable and presents strong arguments—but what he seems to take the most pride in is ridiculing Peter Schiff and saying “HFSP” at his face!

Maybe it feeds his ego. Maybe it’s entertaining. But it does nothing to help onboard more people to Bitcoin.

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He’s Peter abrasive for appreciate face!

Maybe But his NOT what it genuinely is for to and “HFSP” is

Sadly, true … And it doesn’t look good.

The body count of deposed Bitcoiners is increasing.

Lopp and Todd are under fire right now.

We're lining up our next targets in our sights right now.

Todd has really some nasty, unpopular opinions that makes me even think if he has even understood Bitcoin.

Though I can understand his reasoning for his PR and quote one of his demonstrations, naturally it doesn’t mean I agree with whatever comes out of his mouth and boy, has he got a mouth on him!

Do you remember that time when Netflix thought Todd was Satoshi 😂 😂 😂

Yeah man. We created an episode then (though in Persian). We were like “you have tried to find the most unlikely candidate for being Satoshi and have introduced him as Satoshi!”

That was our main criticism, though I really don’t care he is and despite the fact that I used to voice my opinion on who he might be, I refrain from doing so anymore, as I don’t see it productive.

I think it was an HBO series though. Before I invested any time in watching, they proved they’re just full of it and saved my time :)))

I think they were just happy to find somebody that didn't deny they were Satoshi and wasn't Craig 😂

He had some fun with that accusation, I'll give him that 😂

Yeh, I'm the same, it takes a while to respect the anonymity of Satoshi. I have also done so recently.

That should have been the first red flag that Todd isn't who we thought he was.

I don’t think Todd is who Todd thinks he is 😂

BTW: If you’re watching this Peter, get an agent, a human one, not a bot 😂

He brings researched/informed views to the table, is not afraid to express them even when unpopular... sounds pretty bitcoiney to me

HFSP doesn’t sound like an argument to me and laughing at a fellow Austrian’s face and ridiculing them doesn’t help your arguments.

Was referring to Todd.

Kinda in agreement with you in regards to saif.

Oh, I see. What I am highly critical of when it comes to Todd is his advocacy for tail emissions.

I'd seen him pontificate about them being reasonable but didn't know he was in favor. It's an interesting subject imo, but for now and foreseeable future I'm glad we have hard cap

unfortunately, corruptibility of the human heart is immutable.

I've been toying with my destiny for a while now 😂

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Palestinian angst.

I can say my culture and his have something in common. We have a respect for people who are older than us, even if we consider them wrong. It’s incredible to see he hasn’t got a shred of those traits in him.

I’m a big Saifedean fan, but he’s an asshole for sure lol. He’s got quite the ego. I don’t agree with him on a bunch of non bitcoin topics, but he acts so strong in his opinions as if he’s correct on everything.

“Only the closed mind is certain.” - Dean Spanley

100%

I find him utterly pretentious and regardless of one's opinion on Schiff, to say hfsp to a guy who is clearly well off financially is just some pathetic, infantile clownery.

Exactly! Peter Schiff is not poor and he’s not gonna die poor I’d say.

💯🫡

Couldn't agree more. I'll go a step further saying he is absolutely insufferable and should not be around anyone that isn't already firmly entrenched in Bitcoin.

People that recommend Bitcoin Standard as a fresher's first book are also a special breed. That shouldn't be within the first handful unless you want to make sure they don't stick around.

Pandering to the X algorithm.

Peter Schiff will never be poor. He even owns bitcoin now.

Exactly!

Isn’t it incredible that our friends in Silicon Valley have found out that the emotions that divide us the most are what keep our eyeballs on the screen?

I doubt Schiff owns gold or Bitcoin in a new 6102 defensive way. Probably all paper IOUs.

I really, really like making fun of Peter Schiff.

I actually don't. I find him honestly ignorant. He's a great Austrian and he has practiced what he's preached. He was wrong on Bitcoin, but even that he's fixing.

Yeah his Lex Fridman interview and then reading his book is what really got me.

Bt I quickly learned that you don't need to listen to him outside of his monetary history and bitcoin takes. The rest is just violently held opinion

Perer Schiff is continually farming engagement among bitcoin space and mocks economic facts. He deserves a bit of mockery. Plus, I see Saif’s reaction more of a friendly kidding rather than mockery.

I didn't find it as such. It came off as he always wanted to say it at his face and he finally did. What's more, Peter is not poor at all. I'd cojecture to say that he might be way wealthier than Saif himself - and he might remain as such, cause now he has Bitcoin in his portfolio, of course, along with some other shitcoins.

Inviting Peter to the Bitcoin conf was a wrong move from the beginning and what contributed to the shit-show atmosphere of the catasrophe this conf was. Why invite him in the first place? It's a fucking Bitcoin conf. Not a place to gather celebs and politicians.

Saif wanted it. Schiff wanted it. I wanted it. Let’s agree to disagree. 🤷🏻‍♂️

😂😂

یاد همون قضیه‌ی «من راضی، تو راضی» افتادم.

🎯

I recall, with nostalgic fondness, the days when he railed against Nassim Nicholas Taleb.

That motherfucker deserved it though 😂

He already made his contribution.

Well, it doesn't mean he can now retire and go back to being an asshole.

I think it's done like this 🤷‍♂️ in any case I don't agree that it doesn't do anything to let people in 🤔