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Thanks for tackling the topic of decentralized #digitalID ! I’m sure this theme will grow in interest over the next few years. With #crypto our governments don’t have the monopoly over money creation anymore, there is no reason for them to keep the monopoly over IDs creation/management. I need to listen to this episode again because I didn’t understand all the technicalities discussed. Also it’s unclear how the proposed mechanism would prevent sybil attacks.

Instead of creating a separate ID system on top of #Monero, why not integrating with an existing decentralized digital ID #blockchain such as #Idena which is Sybil-proof?

Indeed, it should be possible to link a #XMR address to a #iDNA identity to prove that this address isn’t a #sybil address. That wouldn’t impact the anonymity of other addresses. This could even enable a fair voting (with non-Sybil participants) mechanism on top of Monero which could be a good way to manage a Monero treasury to fund developers.

An0myl0u5 8mo ago 💬 3

I am developing a fully decentralised sybil resistant chain.

The thing that people may not like is that isn't is necessary to KYC.

The main reason is because it is a governance and voting chain.

You cant count votes anonymously (well.. you can and you have to) because of this very same sybil issue.

So my solution is to have a KYC system that can't be AI spoofed.

Due to the fact that I like anonymity and privacy, and conveniently the fact votes must be anonymous, once you are registered in you are never identified as you would have to do that manually, and allow someone to view that.

Your vote amd account is trusted due to my strict onboarding process and will only ever need re checking if there is an issue.

You will hold all the sensitive data.

The KYC does not store your details.

I will allow monero, although it is fully decentralised it again is to get control of governance, so unlikely they will agree terms with monero on board.

If it works and we gain influence then we can vote whatever we want to the network and they are powerless.

If I allow a NON KYC service, the vote is worthless.

If I allow non KYC and LOCK vote features, sybil becomes an issue then also does network manipulation amd vote manipulation.

#An0myl0u5_Net #DePol

#Decentralised_Democracy

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ede3d957... 8mo ago

KYC doesn't work. Optimising for voting doesn't make sense either. It just enables the tyranny of the dumb masses against non consenting individuals.

An0myl0u5 8mo ago 💬 1

1 KYC YOUR way doesn't work.

2 YOU are clearly ignorant dumb masses.

Try reading the project scope first genius.

Try not yo tarnish us all with your own pathetic apathy.

Again read before you judge.

It's not 'optimising' again

Read the project scope and implementation.

#An0myl0u5_Net #DePol

#Decentralise_Democracy

Saberhagen The Nameless 8mo ago

I get the idea for voting (if thats what you want) but how would that even work?

You would need a centralized body to approve or reject KYC identities afaik which in themselves are based on IDs of specific governments. Who gets to decide?

An0myl0u5 8mo ago 💬 3

Yes well there can also be others like NGOs charities etc.

The network will be governed by a foundation Trust similar to Linux foundation LFDT.

So the vote consensus and the trust foundations auditing will decide if an organisation is suitable.

I suppose at first there will be a reasonable need to rely on centralised systems.

However there is the obvious element of needing a certain amount of integration with the current system, otherwise its a pointless vote.

It will need to be a recognised digital voting authority otherwise its pointless.

More of a twitter poll than a political vote.

The view is to offer governments solutions to problems, they believe digital voting is not viable.

It is even with AI spoofing live video.

And can keep your data, the checking service will compare two bits of data and store only the cryptographic proof of it.

As for the vote you should be able to check afterwards if it was counted as you placed it.

Saberhagen The Nameless 8mo ago

I just find it hard to believe most governments would want to use this as it reduces their control. I think it is less about them thinking it is viable and more that the current systems works in their favor.

I do think ZK voting is a cool concept and could be useful and valued for smaller organizations and communities though.

An0myl0u5 8mo ago

Well yeah but that's exactly the point and that's the struggle.

It's the modern day battlefield mate.

We fight like this for this, or fight like they did in the old days, a proper civil war. I don't think we will be given a choice whether we want the unrest or not.

I think we should do what we can to try rather than be defeatist just because they won't want it.

It's not a gift for you're partner, we are in a world wide humanitarian crisis, we need to force it on them.