How do we create a reputable presence without a permanent npub? Where you know a person is reputable because you’re following them, without knowing who they are if their name or npub rotates. Basically, how can we make reputation persist across identities? This is what I’m interested in.
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Better if I can know who they are without everyone knowing who they are
Only the user right?
Npub-chain? Npub endourses next npub. Exclude anything not in the time range
You could use one npub to sign an event associating to another, this way the person could know that they were once the previous identity? Maybe sign on both sides?
I’m with you here. I like the framing of reputation > WoT. There is a need for all of this, but pulling it together in a qualifying and quantifying way remains a challenge.
Someone with big brains can solve this - I can feel it
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If there's a way to know, what use is the public key rotation? Wouldn't the whole point be that people not know? Reputation is an abstract concept based on knowledge of who the person is (whatever that means in a given context).
You can gain more privacy from outsiders while knowing between friends who you are. Same as not taking photos of people at conferences- you know who they are but outsiders don’t.
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It seems like you would need a third key or a different type that can't sign but is required to piece together all the npubs as being signed by a particular key.
This is above my pay grade at the moment though. But it's an interesting concept.
You would share that key privately somehow. Maybe like the in person QR that some messaging apps use.
Wouldn't looking at NIP-17 as inspiration be useful? You could establish the back channel in a similar way to that then update the npub via that back channel.
I'm not sure it's very valuable, but that's how I would begin thinking about it.
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Balaji talks about it in The Pseudonymous Economy
This is very hard and I am not really sure it's needed. Your reputation moves with you, not with your keys. When people know the new key is you, they will follow and thus change the reputation of your key to the new one. It's not going to be the full reputation with all the history of the old one, but it is the real one.
> people know the new key is you
"magic happens here"?
Semantic analysis and reputational rating as a consequence?
Good thinking
Identity groups
Create a service that sits on the back end with a json full of related/rotated npubs. All those npubs ultimately reference the master npub. The back end service coordinates such that anytime something is published or signed by one of the rotated accts, it gets a secondary sign/publish by the master.
As a BTC key has multiple addresses and you can use any of those to send BTC, couldn't an npub have also have multiple addresses that leads to one identity?