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Easiest lightning + bitcoin wallet now that WoS is gone?

I’ve tried Muun and Breeze a little. Installing Zeus now, ‘the node is in your phone?’. But curious of the general contests out there?

corndalorian 2y ago

Are you needing on chain as well? Or just Lightning? If only lightning, probably the easiest and quickest one to setup right now is the Primal app. Strike is reliable too but has more kyc. Lightning Tip Bot in telegram is great for small amounts but you have to link it to Zeus or BlueWallet for a more familiar wallet UI. Same with Alby if you have an invite code.

Breez is my choice for self custodial lightning apps and can send/receive on chain via in app swaps. You’ll just hit fees more often as it opens new channels since it’s a “node in phone” wallet.

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nostr.build 2y ago

Just lightning and super easy.. Wish there was a simple iOS app I could just shill my friends, like WoS..

Don’t want to set them up with primal or fountain podcasting.

I think Strike is it…

kidwarp 2y ago

So your just gonna push them to a full kyc?

Pretty much n e thing is better then that.

Zeus node in da phone is the easiest if if you can deal with the initial LSP opening fees.

Blixt is the same.

Use boltz to send back to on-chain wallet

corndalorian 2y ago

Self custody lightning is expensive and complicated, even with the node in phone apps. It’s a reality you’re unwilling to acknowledge because you’re being dense and ideological. Don’t like it? Make it better.

kidwarp 2y ago

Dense?

Ideological?

Slow your roll noob.

corndalorian 2y ago

Yes. Dense. Ideological. Detached from reality. You’re talking about people’s first touch point with lightning. A self custodial wallet with expensive channel open and closures is not going to impress anyone.

kidwarp 2y ago

Lmfao detached from reality you got some shitty jokes kid

corndalorian 2y ago

Have you ever run a node?

kidwarp 2y ago

Several over the last decade.

corndalorian 2y ago

Lightning has not existed for a decade

kidwarp 2y ago

That is correct.

corndalorian 2y ago

Continuing to be dense, I see. Have you ever run a lightning node?

kidwarp 2y ago

Yes. But it’s currently the node in da phone.

Home ln node is off.

corndalorian 2y ago

So you understand that it’s not just a straightforward thing to manage channels and liquidity, and it’s certainly not cheap. Some of the “node in phone” solutions are making the liquidity management side of things easier, but definitely not cheaper. For someone who already understands the reason Bitcoin is important, then the hurdles become worth it. But if it’s your first time using bitcoin then it’s going to turn people off. Custodial and kyc options are not the end point. But they do make for a very easy starting point, and it’s how a lot of hardcore bitcoin started out. A little hand holding is fine.

nostr.build 2y ago

New people are not going to want to create a node/ self custody.

‘Nothing’ is not better than KYC for noobs..