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I’m still trying to figure out Jack’s role in Bluesky. Is he just funding it like he did Damus or is it ‘his’ app like Twitter/Block/Square. If the latter, this is a bad look.
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jack 2y ago

We funded it as Twitter. It’s not my app, or ideally anyone’s. It’s a small team building a protocol. The current app is a proof of concept and reference for what can be built. The public benefit LLC has a board, which I’m on. It’s the main thrust building the protocol.

A different development model than nostr, which is much more decentralized and bottoms up. There will be a lot more bottoms up on Bluesky as more developers use the various APIs, but started completely differently. I think it’s generally good to explore different models.

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Yar 🦋 2y ago

Oh that makes sense. Thanks for the info Jack!

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Derek Ross 2y ago

Agree. This was just a shitpost 😉 Everything is all very early and we don't know what the future holds. I believe the fully decentralized model behind Nostr will attract an entirely different subset of user (and business) compared to Bluesky.

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The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

Right now Bluesky is attracting a lot of…exhibitionism.

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hh 2y ago

So send her a Nostr invite, someone. Like fast.

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𝕾𝖊𝖗 𝕾𝖑𝖊𝖊𝖕𝖞 2y ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Derek Ross 2y ago

Ugh I hate Apple watches. They're so ugly.

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jamw 2y ago

Dare I say that Bluesky will be more familiar to use for the masses due to the email registration process plus the added “marketing” weight it carries due to the Jack effect? MSM picking up on it already…

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jack 2y ago

Def because of the email/pass registration

But I don’t believe that’s the best long term answer. Key pair is much better. Just takes getting used to

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ben 2y ago

can’t we just surface the nsec as an immutable “password” to users and move on?

end users don’t need to know the technical details (unless they want to)

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jamw 2y ago

Key pairs most certainly the future - almost needs a mainstream marketing focus in of itself. See/predict moves in this direction in time - even hints from Apple with its iCloud Advanced Data Protection implementation. Not exactly key pairs but not far off…

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Derek Ross 2y ago

The problem is that key pairs are very foreign to the masses. We need better signing devices for proper key management where you don't even know it's key management, these actions just fall into the background.

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nobody 2y ago

i'm not entirely sure the vast majority could survive rekeying their process -

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RealJohnDoe 2y ago

I like key pairs too. Very powerful. I hope it will increase intelligent use of password managers like keypass and it's many clients. Very powerful tools in the age of encryption and privacy concerns..🙂

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Derek Ross 2y ago

Agree. I have had friends confusingly ask me about Bluesky since they're heard that it's "Jack's new Twitter" 🥹 The man has clout.

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jamw 2y ago

Definitely! I had friends forward me the msm links to Bluesky adoption recently (I posted them here a day ago or so). I’ve been decentralise-pilling them over the past few years and now they send me articles about decentralisation - not sure if that’s a win or not… 😂

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nobody 2y ago

I like the transparency and details behind the thought...

Maximizing decentralization and upholding as many cypherpunk ideals as possible is so* crucial for the world RN IMO... esp on the back end of so much web 2.0 control and centralization.

Nostr gets this right - minimal points of control and power concentration.

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jack 2y ago

Agree in principle. There are tradeoffs of course.

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jamw 2y ago

I simply love the transparency in discussions here 🤙🏽

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nobody 2y ago

i suppose we need to clarify what everyone means when they say "decentralisation". because: it doesn't mean the same thing across the programmer board, nor does it offer the healthiest use-case/mobility for individuals when it comes to actual usability of social media. if someone is accessing the blockchain through social media, it's necessary to have some sort of ease of navigation. the more scattered individual use, the more it entices predatory data mining by profiteers who see an opportunity is stuck users on non-linked or limited mobility platforms.

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nobody 2y ago

you want me to interpret the "taking it up the ass" more clearly for you, dearest?