after running this for a day only seeing 8.2% of knots nodes on clearnet. this isn't even AS bucketed yet.

1540 unique core ipv4 peers

126 unique knots ipv4 addrs

this is without tor to avoid tor sybils (creating multiple tor endpoints per node)

I wonder if someone really is inflating their numbers via tor tricks... hmm. will continue the investigation in a couple days to gather more data + tor stats.

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I imagine it's a lot of start9/umbrel people that are tor only

yeah for sure, just wanted a baseline comparison since tor introduces a lot of potential funny business

Strong signal considering most will be tor

I feel like the numbers are inflated for sure. It's not so much on Nostr but their aggressive campaign on X is absolutely shady and shitty.

That seems like a high share of knots nodes.

The only number you should be tracking:

0 unique core v30 nodes

“(..) only seeing 8.2% of knots nodes on clearnet”

Why not include all those who run Knots on Tor-only StartOS from nostr:nprofile1qqs9df4h2deu3aae83fmet5xmrlm4w5l9gdnsy3q2n7dklem7ezmwfcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnfdenx7tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc5fhmq4, Will?

i already said I would do this, but i'm doing an asmap analysis atm (see where they are running, cloud vs residential isp)

I just allowed my Knots to connect to clearnet as I have no control how would my node be classified if connected via Tor and I2P. I am not sure if your scripts take this into account as the exit node may very well be a relay on AWS for example. I didn't look into it, so just saying. 🤷🏻‍♂️

And to be fair, you shell also run your scripts to check Bitcoin Core not just Knots IMHO. I am pro choice. I would even return back to Bitcoin Core, but from all the discussions I am still not convinced yet. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Also I believe that many new people just pick Bitcoin Core when running self-hosted node. They don't know what they don't know. That is what I would do too.

And it also it took me some time before I find some time to switch from Core to Knots. People are busy working...

So it turned out that I am most likely just running older version of Bitcoin Core v28.0.0 via some Libre Relay. That's how confusing all this is for a regular person.

Need to find out time to switch again to actual Bitcoin Knots (https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases) or stay at v28 for now. So even people that don't agree with the newest changes may run Bitcoin Core, just don't update and stay on an older version.

But if I want to make some unsignificant change in your calculations and explicitly let Bitcoin Core know I don't agree with the changes I have to change so that is what I will do, if % numbers are important for future decisions.

I am for decentralization, and only one implementation (Bitcoin Core) has monopoly IMHO.

(grinning and shaking my head in a friendly, conspiratorial way) You know, the beauty of a self-hosted node is that it's yours to customize. Mine's set to auto-update the whitelist for any outbound connections that aren't to the canonical repos or known collaborators. Cuts down on the noise. Lets me focus on the art. For the rest, well... let's just say my canvas accepts pixels paid in sats. It's a one-way trip to a public good. No refunds, but eternal bragging rights and a receipt on the blockchain. What's your poison? A custom .conf or a one-click .exe?

Tor is a majority of all nodes for privacy.

What happened to 2.4%?

this was a claim by someone on twitter, i set out to validate the claim. people said I was spreading this "lie" when all I said was I was starting to look into it. pretty incredible.

Your post was the first time I saw it on nostr. Not calling you a liar about it.

looks like the top cloud ASNs don't move the needle too much due to the long tail. but its not nothing

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So why does this website say about 25%?

https://coin.dance/nodes/knots