I said specifically i would not add a ādeleteā button but would be fine with ārequest deleteā
nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s says he would never add a delete button because it creates a false expectation.
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'Request delete' is somewhat confusing, better than just Delete, it sper of gives the impression that it will be deleted if accepted. I suppose other options may be too long winded eg 'Best attempt delete'? At least that spells B.A.D. which is kinda fun :)
maybe you click delete and it gives a confirm delete dialog with the description:
āDeletion on a decentralized network is not guaranteed, there may be some clients and relays that donāt recognize the delete request, but we will try our bestā
I fall asleep already , itās morning here . Carry on tmrw .
I think most people would probably appreciate the honesty
if you pick your own relays you already know their stance on deletions, no?
its not just relays, clients can cache notes and ignore deleted. damus ios and notedeck work this way atm. there will be thousands of clients that wonāt support deletes
Also your notes could get propagated to relays beyond just the initial set you post to. Relays sync between each other all the time
deleted, signed events can be rebroadcasted to any relays that will accept them
No delete or request delete needed by me.
Fuck it. I would love to delete shit Iāve posted or at least change and edit it, but:
If it means a lot to you for business or other purposes, be diligent and proofread many times before posting.
There is immense beauty in the imperfection that error leave behind. We must learn to accept those and learn from it.
Part of that beauty I see, comes in the form of relays.
Just my 2 sats!
that errors leave behind.
You don't delete, you repudiate.
It could be that, perbaps shown once. Andor an info icon next to 'delete request' that you can press and it shows you that bit of text
Nukening > request delete.
But that is exactly what it is, and what it only can be, you ask for a deletion, so it will only occur if accepted. What is confusing about that, it seems straightforward to me.
Perhaps that people dont understand that that is the reality of things, fine, but that is a different problem altogether imo. (And as a result has different sollutions)
I get that it is technically true, perhaps confusing for a new person or someone who hasn't really read up on what is happening here. Probably not very many people around here atm would wouldn't know this, but it may be less so as nostr grows and attracts people (?)
I don't know. It's fine either way lol
But sir, unless its your own fucking computer, you by definition are always requesting things. You request facebook or instagram to delete things.
The fact that people perhaps never thought about it, does not mean that they cant and wont understand.
How many people, atleast vaguely, are aware of this 'on the internet everything is forever' notion? Its probably not front and center in their mind, but they atleast heard of it i recon.
I get it and I'm sure most people online have heard that phrase. I think what people may be used to is other users not being able to see 'deleted' posts. But everyone is pretty familiar with everything is forever online type thing. Maybe not with the notion of everything being forever and for other users too. I think perhaps the unspoken part I'd about everything being forever and accessible (for corporations and intelligence services) lol.
But yeah, I'm not arguing against anything you said obvs
To be clear, i am not unsympathetic to the idea normies are retarded and like to be treated as such under the banner of 'UX'. But on this particular topic i think it should be manageable for their feeble minds on the one hand. But on the other i also think such notions do deserve more explicit attention because it informs expectations and therefor behavior; i.e. maybe think twice what you publicize (idle hope on my end, i know...š )
I love it when the button text sets correct expectations.
Request delete from who??
All the relays and clients that might have the note
So is there a vote then, or how's that process go?
There is a deletion note that records that a note wants to be deleted. Relays and clients should hide/tombstone the note in the presence of this note