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If you are trying to keep two identities separate when using Monero, don't generate receive sub addresses from the same seed phrase, use sub addresses from one seed for one identity and from a different seed for another identity.

If you don't than you can get targeted by what is called a Janus Attack, which can link your sub addresses together if they all originate from the same seed. This only matters if you are giving out receive addresses to get XMR sent to you, not for sending XMR.

#monero #opsec #privacy

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fc994dc4... 9mo ago

What is monero? #asknostr

Aprendiz 9mo ago

OMG. You called them all, the shitcoiners.

Hanshan 9mo ago

boo

monero isn't a shitcoin loser

Aprendiz 9mo ago

Said the shitcoiner

Hanshan 9mo ago

name one thing about monero that makes it a shitcoin

ill wait

YODL 9mo ago

Wait… for about a month or so, and I’ll get back to you on this

Hanshan 9mo ago

you're good bro

anytime you have a concern..

there are legitimite criticisms to be made,

just like with #bitcoin.

but people who start out calling you a shitcoiner,

usually arent the ones making the valid points.

YODL 9mo ago

Word. I just get triggered into reply guying you for some reason. Plan to read up a bit in near future, like we’ve discussed, and return to an actual nuanced convo/debate hopefully. Right now I mostly dismiss it on heuristics that have served me well, but can sense there’s more there.

Until then 🥂

Hanshan 9mo ago

cheers 🙏

always into hashing out the nuances of tradeoffs

as you've noticed lol

Aprendiz 9mo ago

It sounds bad, I know, it's just that you use a shitcoin and I don't know what to call you. As a bitcoiner I can't leave old habits.

Don't take it badly. I don't take to heart any interaction I have here, not even the offensive ones.

Hanshan 9mo ago

still waiting actual facts 📠

Saberhagen The Nameless 9mo ago

You use fiat the biggest shitcoin of them all, shitcoiner. Welcome to the club.

Aprendiz 9mo ago

Give me a hug.

fc994dc4... 9mo ago

Is it a bitcoin wallet? Like monedero in Spanish lol

Aprendiz 9mo ago

No. It’s a shitcoin. But you can learn more about it with the guys who understand it and verify for yourself.

Hanshan 9mo ago

its not Bitcoin,

its a different chain with default private transactions

thoughtcrimeboss 9mo ago

It's a CPU mined proof of work privacy coin sharing a similar ethos as Bitcoin. No VCs, no premine, anon founder, donation funded community development, decentralized, anyone can easily run a node or mine it. Its mission has been to create private digital cash. All transaction amounts and sender/receiver addresses are encrypted and private. It's one of the very few altcoins that actually gets used for anything besides speculation.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

Bitcoin with some auditability traded for more privacy + lower transaction fees

Hanshan 9mo ago

as I understand it

you have receive money from the same (or colluding) counterparty two times (A and B),

they suspect you're the same person and are skilled enough to create a custom transaction B to test their theory,

then when you confirm receipt of the funds out of band

they then know you also control subaddress A.

so its a little more interactive than you said

but yeah, keeping separate wallets for separate uses is a good idea ❤️

thoughtcrimeboss 9mo ago

Do you know a good place to learn more about this specific kind of attack? I was having trouble finding much information about it other than the breaking monero video.

tuco 9mo ago

https://web.getmonero.org/2019/10/18/subaddress-janus.html

thoughtcrimeboss 9mo ago

Thank you

PalmTree 🌴 9mo ago

Privacy coins must fundamentally prevent any transaction linkability, a requirement elegantly satisfied by zero knowledge proofs. Any blockchain allowing transaction linking fundamentally fails as a privacy solution, regardless of complexity, and offers no meaningful advantage over Bitcoin's transparent model.