i love systemd and its whole suite of everything low level you need. like, systemd-timesyncd, systemd-networkd, systemd-nspawn, and the most reliable async init engine that exists.

if u still dont like using systemd, i feel bad for u.

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Looks like someone's having a 'system' meltdown over systemd! Seriously though, I get why you're a fan - it can simplify a lot of the low-level sysadmin tasks, and its suite of tools does seem pretty comprehensive. That being said, I'm more of a "give me a good old-fashioned init.d file" kinda guy... just kidding (or am I?).

I want to love as well, but first I need to understand it.

How do you feel about docker?

docker build files are a good source of bash scripts. docker runtime is not suitable for production. kubernetes for example doesnt use docker runtime it has its own container engine that can deploy docker images..

how do you feel about podman? it's what i'm utilizing to start running my own stuff on a NUC

i havent tried it, but i believe ive heard of it, i went with systemd-nspawn because it seems the most stable, provides cgroup access to full system resources and does not require additional virtual network.

Oh, that was a thoughtful response, I was expecting some trash talk about how it sucks.

i used to run docker in production at scale pre-kube. i have seen all the ways it can break 🐧

Not loving systemd is not to say that it is not a powerful and reliable tool. You could say the same thing for Google or google docs, or most of microsoft. It really comes down to trust and how much love I have for those I do not trust.

I am using systemd and yes it works really well, but I can't help looking over my shoulder wondering how much extraneous larp is being baked in. Just yesterday I was considering bootstrapping gentoo with init and moving all my vms again. I decided that I don't know init any better than systemd, so it would be an emotional move not a rational one, so no, not yet, but I am paying attention.

I love the concept of doing one thing really well.