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Blossom is soo stupid.... It externalizes the "freedom" to users while concentrating the risk on operators. As operator of a blossom server you are responsible for everything uploaded to your server - CSAM, copyrighted content, revenge porn, terrorist material, and any other illegal content in your jurisdiction. You are forced to actively monitor what you're hosting otherwise you can easily get in trouble - facing criminal investigations, lawsuits, server seizures, and financial ruin. One bad upload can destroy your life.

It's basically like running a Tor hidden service on the clearnet - all the liability of hosting anonymous content, none of the protection.

Relays have a very similar problem, but at least the content is somewhat obfuscated through WebSocket - you need a Nostr client to easily browse what's there. With Blossom, you just need a URL and everyone on the planet with a browser can open it, including law enforcement. It's trivially easy for authorities to find illegal content on your server. You're basically painting a target on yourself.

tree 木 3d ago 💬 3

I think Blossom is another example of how Nostr people really cannot think about scale. This can work in a small community with a small number of uploads, but when you scale this up to millions of users, you need massive moderation teams to protect yourself. It's a very naive way to design infrastructure in the current world of regulations and censorship.

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Sebastix 3d ago 💬 1

So we need millions of small blossom servers.

You are obsessed with scale. Why?

SPA (Super Phat Arrow) 3d ago 💬 1

I would like these notes from tree about how shit Nostr is more if he suggested something better.

tree 木 3d ago 💬 3

There are two options:

1) either accept centralization and that it will not be censorship-resistant and have a few large centralized providers

or 2) go the P2P route (IPFS, Filecoin, Arweave, etc.) and try to be fully censorship-resistant

Nostr seems to not want to go either route, pretending to be "censorship-resistant" but not really

Sebastix 3d ago

So a third distributed route is not possible from your perspective?

il_lost_ 3d ago

blossom is a redundant cdn

Constant 3d ago

But hey, the fact the reference in your event is not necessarily specific to a server and can be rehosted after the fact and won't die by default, is 'sooo stupid', apparently. 🤷‍♂️

tree 木 3d ago 💬 1

We've been saying "everyone will run their own node/server" for 30 years. It never happens.

Sebastix 3d ago

30 years!? How old are you?

But I agree with you on this one, that will not happen (soon).

𝐒𝐧@𝐱 3d ago

Any suggestions?