But the argument was that we can just ignore tax authorities and laws, but that’s simply not true. Sure, it doesn’t matter rn because most zaps are literally pennies, but if you buy anything significant with untraceable crypto and you’re audited, it’s going to be seized.
It’s even worse because the ledger is completely public. The government, corporations, and literal randos can track every penny you spend.
If you want be untraceable, you can use Monero.
Again, as long as you don’t buy anything substantial. If you buy a car with monero for example and you were audited, it’s going to be seized.
I don’t care about Monero.
Also, I guess it depends on what jurisdiction you’re in.
Third, the adults who risk getting their property seized because somehow they have a government that can do that, can make their own decisions.
That’s the case in every civilised country in the world. Anti-money laundering laws are standard, and that’s actually a good thing.
So why bitcoin then, what problem is it solving?
AML is bullshit. Not a good thing.
People still launder money.
It’s lazy policing and is needless surveillance.
If it’s MY money, then I should be able to transact with anyone I want.
If I break the law, go investigate and prosecute. You know actual police work.
AML is just policing perceived intent.
Bitcoin solves separation of money and state.
Government shouldn’t be in charge of the money. Monetary inflation is a real thing.
Hamburgers weren’t 35 cents 70 years ago because of “the good old days”.
Governments and their central banks make up money, devalue people’s hard earned money (stealing their time they busted their ass earning it) to give it to their well connected friends.
Government shouldn’t have the right to confiscate properly arbitrarily WITHOUT due process.
I hardly consider any of that civilized.
Again. The roads where I am suck, our civilized system ain’t doing a good job.
Apologies. I thought you were replying to me. I saw there’s a Monero guy who chimed in.
Let’s let individuals figure that out.
If the guys above don’t think it’s a problem for them, nuff said.
I’m not a legal expert and I can tell you that lightning payments are not on the public ledger.
If you close your lightning channel your tally of send and received are settled up and you have that much Bitcoin on the ledger.
This isn’t foolproof anonymous but again I think we let the adults figure it out with their jurisdiction.
You are free to not set up any lightning integration and accept any sats. You are also free to not do anything with anonymously received money.
Also, if you sent me money “non-anonymously” I don’t know who you are. You’re just a pub key writing data to some servers. Not too much different.
