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All 3 things you listed have nothing to do with privacy. Common goalpost shift.

Monero is scarce. There is a limited amount at any given time that is under demand and no one can just poof it out of thin air.

FCMP upgrade later this year will enable L2s.

But yes it does have a smaller network effect.

Turtlesallthewaydown⚡️ 11mo ago

You are correct, the points I’ve listed have nothing to do with privacy but everything to do with being a good money.

So the question I pose to you is, if you had the option to receive the best form of money … aka most widely acceptable, best store of value etc, would you accept the 2nd best? Yes if you were doing shady transactions, no if you were just living a modest life.

Don’t get me wrong privacy is super important so I’ve always had a soft spot for Monero due to the problem it solves for but I believe Lightning solves this for Bitcoin.

So Monero might, for a long time, be a good way to spend and obfuscate shady transactions but it wouldn’t be a good place to store my wealth or a good medium to buy groceries or a house.

Ultimately the market is already telling you this.

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Saberhagen The Nameless 11mo ago

Scroll up. This whole conversation was about privacy and you changed the subject.

Bitcoin is not even the most widely accepted money though. USD is thats why stablecoins are the most popular globally.

If privacy is "shady" why do you want privacy for Lightning?

Yes, the market is already telling you Monero is better for privacy which is why it dominates DNMs

One thing is for sure though that Wallet of Satoshi address in your bio is giving you no privacy from them.

Turtlesallthewaydown⚡️ 11mo ago

You should definitely stick with Monero and we should resume this conversation 15years from now.

Saberhagen The Nameless 11mo ago

More deflection. See ya.

Kevin's Bacon 11mo ago

You were refusing to acknowledge or try to understand his point. I don't know why you would expect him to dive further into yours and not state his original purpose for the conversation. Sounds like willfully shutting your mind off to me. You're no better than the very toxic of us bitcoiners.

Saberhagen The Nameless 11mo ago

If you read my responses I actually did still address their off-topic points

It wasn't MY conversation. It was the original conversation of OP: Monero vs Lightning transactional PRIVACY

Very common for Bitcoiners on here to do whenever transactional privacy comes up. I don't blame them though it's a losing battle to say otherwise. So change the subject.

Kevin's Bacon 11mo ago

Actually he was forming his point. It wasn't only about privacy. It was about his belief that Bitcoin has enough privacy plus other monetary properties that will make it more widely accepted over time, thus possibly allowing for far more private transactions in the future.

Saberhagen The Nameless 11mo ago

Well, I disagree that Bitcoin has enough privacy. I don't think even Super believes this but correct me if I'm wrong Super.

Also, I can't use the 'possiblies' and 'maybes' of future privacy enhancements today which is why we're using Monero.

When/if that happens I'll use it.