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If nostr:npub1ex7mdykw786qxvmtuls208uyxmn0hse95rfwsarvfde5yg6wy7jq6qvyt9 adds NWC, then I'm wondering if their clients like nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg would get NWC too? That would be huge for Primal users that use the built-in Primal wallet. They'd be able to use their Primal wallet in a dozen different Nostr apps instantly.

Why would they? VC funded companies don’t give a shit about users

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Maybe some, however nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle literally does tech support himself. He's an outlier and a good human.

I meant Primal in this case.

🙄🥱

they would have done NWC now if they wanted to, but the high spreads on sat sales is just too good ;)

Yes, especially when he forces KYC down bitcoiner's throats.

force? just don’t use the product. if Strike doesn’t appeal to you I completely understand. current regulations are unfortunate

I don't and never will but not everyone is as aware as I am of the dangers of your KYC trap.

And please stop blaming "regulations" for your evil intentions. Enticing people with convenience just so you can hit them with KYC is not something to be proud of.

I'd rather my business fails than set up my customers to expose themselves to governments' financial tyranny.

You're supposed to help fellow plebs, not to screw them over just so you can financially profit off them.

Have you ever built anything?

Yes I have.

Have you ever minded your own business?

Ironic much

“Mind your own business,” says the guy engaging in discussion on a public forum.

“Your KYC trap”

Very disingenuous

Touch grass

How do you buy non KYC?

Robosats

HodlHodl

Bisq

Peach for EU

ATMs (some)

unless you do it f2f you've been KYCed.

and if you start receiving money from dozens of random ppl you surely be debanked sooner or later.

FUD

I was in two europian banks already.

I keep use these platforms and hope they will not kick me out another one.

Strike is one the banks which did not kicked me. yet.

It might not be a guaranteed way to get you debanked. Don't be surprised when your is account is locked and you're asked to explain transactions.

Has this happened to you?

You aren’t regarded. You are actually retarded.

And you're actually a moron

I'm not the one thinking someone with a legal business entity can just openly ignore laws and regulations set forth by the jurisdictions Strike is doing business in.

So here is your time to prove nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle and the rest of us morons wrong. Please outline what steps he needs to take for Strike to offer non-KYC wallet technology to the masses.

I'll hang up and listen.

I didn't call jack or others morons, just you!

You're the moron in question.

been 100% Bitcoin since the launch of Bill Pay, thanks Jack!

I was ok with the kyc. Strike closed my account because their partner no longer served Texas. They got a new partner so I was again eligible but they wanted me to kyc again. No thanks.

Bitcoiners fail to realize we can change the laws!!

Completely agree. This guy is trolling hard

Primal is the issue

If that’s true why does primal have the best user experience?

Because they are centralized.

Tf do you even mean? You mean the fact that they use a caching server?

They have a better UX because they care about users

They exclusively rely on the caching server

Not for long. nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr has confirmed they will add a fallback where the client reads directly from relays in the case of a caching server outage.

A caching server is not a bad thing, especially as Nostr grows. Primal will always be the fastest client with the largest user base. The other clients are ugly and slow.

A caching server removes the entire point of having relays. That is why everyone is working on outbox.

everyone except the homos at primal

It really doesn’t. The relays are still decentralized. The caching server greatly reduces load on the relays making it possible for more people to run relays. The caching server improves responsiveness and many other things.

You can have both. You could have a caching server and have the client read directly any relays that aren’t cached

But you are reading from the caching server which can control what you see and in that case you do not need a relay

Primal has censored content multiple times

Also, running relays at production scale (with nostr.land) costs barely anything even though it is the default in a lot of clients

Are you retarded? What does the caching server read from? You still need relays.

Show me who they censored, and why. I’ve asked several people this and none of them have given me proof of anything being censored.

You cry about centralization and then say the solution to scaling problems is centralizing relays. The whole point of relays is that you can run your own and post content to it so no one can censor you.

A client that caches popular content and allows direct reading from unpopular relays would be more performant, and it would reduce energy and data usage.

You don’t even have to use the primal caching server. It’s open source.

I'd like more NWC options that aren't tied to VC backed Nostr apps.

Should be one stand alone wallet that is used in several apps like AlbyHub or coinos is doing.

Incentives are tough for wallet development. Typically not a clear immediate business model which is why teams go for funding to grow the user base and figure a sustainable revenue model as they go. So you need some benevolent dev who builds something with no expectation of a return (which can and does happen) or some foundation / grant program to fund the development.

Isn't Alby a VC backed startup?

as nostr:npub1l5sga6xg72phsz5422ykujprejwud075ggrr3z2hwyrfgr7eylqstegx9z is fond of pointing out

whoever is paying for dev, is the customer

we got started with venture investments but we are both very profitable and i control everything about the company. we do whatever we want and care deeply about Bitcoiners

FWIW, got great customer service with Strike. (DM’d you a while ago nostr:npub1cn4t4cd78nm900qc2hhqte5aa8c9njm6qkfzw95tszufwcwtcnsq7g3vle with the name of the Strike employee). Went above and beyond.

Strike always goes above and beyond

strike is great. 🤙

primal is questionable though, and they are leaning too much towards a partially walled garden approach

does strike fund or donate to any nostr services?

Isn't Jack's presence enough? he he

yes it is, but i also believe that anyone with the ability to financially support devs on the protocol, should do it. presence is a contribution, but the good karma you’ll get by personally helping devs (and not just the devs that already are vc funded, like primal) is far more abundantly beneficial than just presence

I dunno, Jack is offering a service to Nostr, their hands are likely tied

Are we really getting anywhere with all that opensats money ? Infrastructure never improved and is still retarded

what service is jack offering on nostr? is strike being integrated? also, he can simply zap a dev like semisol or you, instead of going by through opensats.

i mean he is offering a service to nostr , likely on vc funding himself

where? to who?

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/strike-0845/company_financials

some VC funding

Jack offers a service for nostrs most important part, zaps

hmm, insanely interesting that strike is partly funded by Washington University in stl! i didn’t know that so cool.

but what does this link have to do with nostr, im sorry.

nothing, we were talking about what strike does for nostr, basically zaps

thank you for clarifying

he’s a great dude, no denying, i discovered strike through his presence on nostr. i respect him with the upmost regards

strike I believe does not use nostr significantly

probably complicated when you’re company that large, just like how dorsey is unable to do much to integrate block (tidal, cashapp, square) with nostr.

apart from jack's shitposting