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Push notifications are cool and all, but they are part of what makes social media so addicting. What if, instead of push notifications, you could get a daily or weekly email with your notifications? Might be a healthier way to interact than feeling like you always need to immediately check your phone to see what the latest alert was about.

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That said, I wouldn't mind seeing this done in a more Nostr-native way.

nostr:npub1v3tgrwwsv7c6xckyhm5dmluc05jxd4yeqhpxew87chn0kua0tjzqc6yvjh would it be possible to have a few options for when Pokey sends push notifications? 1. Real-time (current practice), 2. At a specific time each day. 3. On a specific day each week.

If so, I would love to be able to subscribe to notifications for community relays' calendar, chat, and threads events in Pokey, too. Or get really crazy and allow Pokey to subscribe to a custom feed... Then users could, say, create a custom feed that was based on a kind 30000 list, but only showed long-form notes, and Pokey could alert daily if any of those npubs had written an article.

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hodlbod 8mo ago

Unfortunately all the same problems with email apply to push notification servers as well. In order to access auth-protected relays on behalf of a user, you have to be able to sign stuff with their key. Push notifications are by default not encrypted either (although I think you can do e2ee).

Dikaios1517 8mo ago

Yeah, I am less concerned about the signing. That can be handled by giving the notifications service a separate bunker token that can be revoked if it tries signing things I don't want it to, or in the case of Pokey, I can just revoke its Android signer permissions.

I am definitely interested in the idea you have about locked permissions that you mentioned in the video.

And if push notifications can be e2ee... Could be a better solution all-around compared to email.

I am just spitballing here... Could any of this be combined with nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg's server-side secure enclaves to enhance the privacy of any of this? Any insight nostr:npub136jg2fnty2z5vwcnh7p4jpckrs3tk0dpueftgs7mznuuaenjpfps6tjnxf?

hodlbod 8mo ago

Here's the PR I opened on locked bunker delegation, : https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1795

Dikaios1517 8mo ago

Well, you got buy-in from greenart7c3, and Amber is probably the most widely used bunker signer right now, so that's a start!

By the way. I need to get my GitHub account figured out. It has apparently been flagged, so no one can see what I comment or any issues I add... Probably because I signed up using an email alias, rather than my actual email address. Highly annoying.

hodlbod 8mo ago

Yeah! Hopefully I can find time to coordinate with nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcqyp6hjpmdntls5n8aa7n7ypzlyjrv0ewch33ml3452wtjx0smhl93j44lmth and get it done. That email thing is annoying 😂

KoalaSat 8mo ago

That's an interesting, feature, if you are popular you would receive dozens of notifications at once, but still it's doable

hodlbod 8mo ago

I think the ideal is some kind of digest. You know, "this note got 87 reactions and 12 replies, want to go read them?"

KoalaSat 8mo ago

I see, I think a digest is even simpler, thanks! Good food for thought 🙂

Dikaios1517 8mo ago

True. Would be more ideal if Pokey sent one "summary" type of notification if either daily or weekly were selected, but not sure if that's possible. One that just says, "You received X replies and X zaps and X reactions today/this week." Tapping on it woud take the user to Pokey's Notifications tab where they can be reviewed in detail.

If that's not possible, I think it is still fine. Any time I have more than a few notifications from Pokey, Android groups them together so I can either expand them to review each, or dismiss them as a group.

KoalaSat 8mo ago

Nice idea, I'll think about it thanks!

High Heel King 8mo ago

I think all notifications should just be off by default and users should have the ability to turn ones on as they see fit. Pretty sure that's what Primal just enabled in their recent update.

Dikaios1517 8mo ago

Before this update, I don't think Primal had push notifications at all.

Other Nostr apps have followed that basic flow of having push notifications off by default.

Still others have strange behavior where push notifications only occur while you actually have the app open, which is the opposite of useful...

Either way, your current option in apps that give you one is to either have push notifications in real time, or no notifications at all. I think there could be a happy medium struck where users could opt for a daily or weekly summary/digest, either by email as with nostr:nprofile1qqsf03c2gsmx5ef4c9zmxvlew04gdh7u94afnknp33qvv3c94kvwxgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgewaehxw309a5xyu3wvdhhyctrd3jjuum0vd5kzmp0er5gcs's tool or by push notification with Pokey.

The advantage of pokey is, it's Nostr-native and it allows you to select the Nostr app you want to open the notification with, instead of being locked into opening the notification with one particular client. If the same function was added to Amethyst, for instance, then you would be more or less locked into opening the notification with Amethyst. Yes, you could swipe the notification away and open a different client, but it's less friction to just tap the notification to open Amethyst, so that's what most will do.