When you are ready to unknow what you think you know perhaps you will view this differently. Until then we are tuned to different channels, you’ll never understand the music I’m playing and I don’t need to know what you are listening to cause I’ve already heard it.
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I’m always curious reading what folks on this channel say. I’d love to know what they think about the subject of #epistemology , usually guessing that they haven’t studied it. I would tend to agree with nostr:npub1wpu33h35ufrnxdhwmy82s3l3nk682xm3whvfxepxsjn24t6dnn8q0hku55 - but does spirituality require believing that a photon can think? Or is that somehow the wrong question entirely and why?
I definitely do not think many would believe or need to believe that a photon can think for itself. Perhaps it doesn’t. I don’t even describe myself as spiritual. I’m just a student. I’m a seeker. I was raised catholic. I enjoy Buddhism. I observe life and I’m constantly questioning everything. I ascribe to no religion. I’m here just writing out my thoughts. Take it or leave it. I speak for no one.
I don’t think it’s the wrong question to ask because even a wrong question can lead to the right answer. All questions are valid.
GREAT question..
To throw something into to mist for thought experimentation…
Centuries later his theories were confirmed… people thought his thesis was bogus at the time…
science of the times didn’t have a way of explaining it… they thought diseases were caused by bad air..
Imagine…
Everything we see was once a thought in someone’s mind… literally EVERYTHING
Open-mindedness is the path to discovery ☀️🙏🏼 
Open-mindedness is required. But there is also only one true interpretation of a non-subjective event. We must somehow discover that interpretation or risk being led on strange paths.
What would you say about epistemology?
I wrote this the other day, and it seems relevant to your question:
Our TRUTH will always be tested.
The human mind has placed guardrails around any and everything that is counter to the narrative we believe in. Symbology allows us to form agreements or beliefs towards things as simple as a word or a picture. We generate energy towards the things that feel good and create objection and dissonance around anything that does not.
Here’s an easy example of this:
God
Spirit
Consciousness
Energy
Source
The universe
Higher Power
Some will immediately stop in their tracks when they see these words without applying a lens of observation towards the underlying message. They’re no longer listening because the symbol or word you used created a trigger towards what they believe is correct. No one journey is the same. Lean not on ‘YOUR’ own understanding… Seek good in all things… build bridges and connections when faced with polarity. Push through resistance of triggers.
The human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify anything beyond our level of understanding. Transformation occurs with the renewal of our mind. Our ‘truth’ can only be unveiled when we take steps towards things we may never see, walk towards it anyway.
The ability to observe without judgement is the highest form of intelligence.
Thank you for sharing. It does seem like you haven’t read about epistemology. I promise I don’t mean that in a condescending way, my experience has been that very few people have even heard the word before. I’m just trying to figure out whether my hypothesis is correct or not - that people on “this channel” are always folks who haven’t dealt with the issues that epistemology raises in their personal journey.
If true I’d highly recommend reading about it. Though it’s a bit… challenging. It took me quite a bit of deconstructing of my own previous ways of thinking. I’d love to see how what I understand of your epistemic approach changes or doesn’t through the process of reading about the historical evolution of epistemic approaches.
What do I know though.
Or perhaps I’ve already left that journey.. 😊 In exploring the depths of spiritual discovery, one encounters a realm that transcends the boundaries of traditional epistemology. Epistemology, rooted in rationality and empirical evidence, often falls short in comprehending vast spiritual mysteries. Spiritual awareness necessitates a departure from purely intellectual pursuits. True understanding comes not merely from evidence-based reasoning, but from tapping into the intuitive wisdom that lies within us. It is through personal experience, connection, and attunement to the means beyond a scientific lens that profound spiritual truths are revealed. So, the purpose of my note is more so in alignment with a path of spiritual discovery which ventures beyond the limitations of epistemology. It invites whomever is on that path to embrace a broader, more intuitive approach. It’s not for everyone. Most will not understand it at surface level.
In other words. Unlearn epistemology and get back to her when light speaks to you.
Good luck on that path.
Hopefully I understood what you mean here.
The lessons of epistemology should be found when one is ready.
In hindsight, they are the foundation and not the cap on a journey of learning.
Why does it require a departure from associating cause and effect? This seems more dangerous than beneficial given the immense human and AI penchant for hallucination.
Why do I care, what’s at stake: human lives, time with loved ones. Real people don’t do specific actions required to keep their bodies alive because of what can be reduced to problems of epistemology. They haven’t been able to figure out correctly what real world actions would keep them alive. This happens all the time, including people in my life. 🫂
How would you suggest we come to “one true interpretation” on a question that can’t ever been proven in one way or another? We just agree and close the book on it?
There isn’t just one interpretation of anything. We are all living in our own realities and perceiving things differently even when they are empirical truths.
Also, I’ve never come across epistemology, what would you like me to know about it? I’m kinda retarded, please keep this in mind.
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What can’t be proven one way or the other?
Some things are subjective. I’d say those probably can’t be proven at least not soon. Others are not subjective. Whether the DNA creates sound frequencies that match UV light is not subjective. Whether this or true is a question of experiment not of the soul. If experimental data suggests it’s true, then it might be. Absent that data, we don’t know. With that data, one true interpretation emerges.
Other kinds of questions like “what does it mean to my soul to be a grandparent of a deaf child” probably can’t be answered in a prove-able way. Those should be the subject of deep thought and discussion as they exist largely beyond the empirical realm.
too much scientism,
too much woo woo
leaves a boy anxious,
lonely and blue.
its true that if you seek
then surely you will find
herein you'll find a pretty gem
of the seekin that was "mine".
link to book at archive is at the end of the longform
Looks like he was a bit secretive about his methods. Maybe if he wouldn’t have led people astray about how he made his lenses they would have recognized him as correct and not been so delayed in learning too.
Profound ideas and discoveries that challenge the common thought of the day are typically met with extreme backlash. Regardless of how the discoverer brings them to light.
I don’t know if you mean to defend his actions, but in case you do, why not write with a pseudonym then? Explain the procedure in full and let them figure it out.