It is private and censorship resistant.
The most censorship resistant money on the planet due to various factors.
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Monero privacy is not verifiable, only educated guesswork.
Monero privacy depends on mathematics.
Well understood and provable math.
Wheres the guesswork?
Educated guesswork, which is what privacy is and is the same way Bitcoin proves its privacy.
Buy Bitcoin not tied to your identity & spend it.
In both instances there's no way to prove that your privacy was indeed preserved.
If someone knows what you're doing they don't have to reveal that knowledge.
quite a wordsalad to say "just buy nonKYC bro"
which is retarded advice
Lol now we know you're a larp, bc you're still under the assumption or promoting the assumption that's all it takes for privacy.
Even if you're using monero to be sure, you have to be using a machine not tied to your identity on a network not tied to your identity.
ok I want you to concentrate REALLY hard
i said "just buy noKYC is retarded privacy advice"
you respond "youre a larp bc you're promoting the assumption that's all it takes for privacy"
which makes ZERO fucking sense.
what the fuck assumption am I supposed to be promoting now?
cause I didnt say anything about "all you have to do is ..."
that was you bro
Everything you are saying is already a given.
Ceteris parabis: NoKYC + Monero >>> NoKYC + Bitcoin
Common falsehood.
If I had a satoshi for every time I've posted this link..
I'm sorry to break it to you but this doesn't prove what I said in my OP buddy.
You're right, I read something different (the common complaint about allegedly not being able to verify the supply.
So, to your point: I'd rather have "unverifiable privacy" in software made by world-class cryptographers than the certainty of zero privacy and weak pseudonymity.
Monero devs themselves admit the supply isn't as verifiable as Bitcoin or doggie coin
https://www.moneroinflation.con
Read and understand it, and take your own conclusions.
Posting links you can't explain the points of yourself is bad practice, but anyway here's the result: it blocks my VPN so I'm gonna go ahead and trust the Monero devs themselves on this one
That's a DNS error, I highly doubt they have the ability to do that.
Your assertion that I cannot explain it is incorrect. I already understand it but don't have the time or the patience to explain the same thing over and over to the 1000th person who brings up the same fallacy.
Do your homework and understand it, or don't, but if you don't then at least don't post falsehoods.
I would block you for this bullshit time-wasting if this was a pussy ass coward platform that allows blocking
A transparent ledger is not private by definition.
But sure
go ahead and pretend linking IRL identity to utxos doesn't happen or matter.
You're so low IQ it hurts wow.
Buy Bitcoin not tied to your identity and spend it, the anon set is all transactions you're hiding in.
Same shit different tactic.
Keep it simple
You're conflating privacy and anonymity. You always have zero privacy on Bitcoin L1 since it's completely transparent.
Bitcoin not tied to your identity is not about privacy, but about anonymity. You are very weakly pseudonymous at best, and any mistakes you make from now to eternity carries the risk of retroactive deanonymization.
If you really think buying no kyc while leaving an eternal cleartext breadcrumb behind you is the same as transacting in an opaque-by-cryprography chain, I really don't know what else to tell you.
Lmao no man just no, thinkboi harder
You truly don't understand that if your identity is linked to a single utxo
that your entire transaction graph will be exposed?
That's just untrue at face value and mostly a strawman, that's highly dependant on various factors but you know that.
Okay sell a car to a firend for one large utxo nokyc.
I keep that utxo separate from the rest of my stack and it to buy p2p.
I buy large thing and get change outputs.
I buy smaller things and get smaller change outputs etc.
At some point I buy a product from someone. they are a Bitcoin business and they get my irl identity.
And at a certain point the IRS gets irritated about bitcoiners evading taxes and raids that business.
Now the feds have a big list of Bitcoin transactions from them. Including mine.
They contract with Chainanal to find out all about the transaction data that they got.
So now even though I originally got this large utxo nokyc, the IRS now knows how much I spent and and its current state.
So they come to me and say "okay what did you do here? what is this transaction? where did this big utxo come from? how did you pay for it?"
And I'm responsible for explaining the whole fucking movement of funds from the beginning of that utxo.
in other words, no fucking privacy.
In contrast to Monero
Where they would come to me and say "okay we know you bought this thing with Monero."
But they have zero visibility into anything prior to that.
i know facts hurt.
put on your big boy pants.
Why no ecash
I really dont have anything to add.
except to point out
in Bitcoin youre hiding in the anonset of other noKYCed utxos
in Monero youre hiding in the anonset of ALL txos *except* for the ones sent directly from a kyc exchange
big difference.
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You guys are so dumb it hurts
Your whole argument boils down to since you can't be sure a technology protecting your privacy (proving a negative) and anonymity will stand, might as well do everything in the clear, without any protection.
But we are the dumb ones?
You, "buddy", are the worst kind of fool: the fool who doesn't even realize he's a fool.
Yelling into the void paragraphs doesn't make you right, just falling down the dumbcunt hole further.
It's a hard pill to swallow but you're almost there buddy.
You're still conflating anonymity and privacy?