Zapping newbies to Nostr immediately is dumb as shit.

Promotes bad behavior.

Message should be:

Welcome, now do something or beat it. If you’re real, not a bot, & not a scammer, you may get zapped. Good luck.

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Couldn't agree more, people just unload instantly, especially if there's a few photos, and those photos show a women.

I don’t. And I usually block/mute indefinitely those accounts.

I want Nostr small for a long time. Unique. Fuck newcomers. We don’t need them. Not all at least.

The mute button is wonderful for keeping your tribe pure

Sure as God's got sandals when it blows up it'll go to shit. People always find ways to fuck shit up if there's too many heads in the pot.

Yep agree. Show some proof of pulse

Isn’t there some dumb welcome bot that insta zaps now? I understand the premise but disagree with the execution.

Keep Nostr small for as long as possible.

I just mute anyway. My feed is clean.

There is yeah. A couple of them I think now.

How long have you been using nostr?

Long time. “Do you k know who the fuck I am”? Jeez.

I don’t pay attention to a lot of stuff. I keep in my lane. I’ve seen it but don’t give a shit about it to understand more.

GM🙂☕️

I’m guilty of this but now I stand corrected. Thanks🫂

Very shitcoiny of you but there is redemption. And forgiveness. Now rise & sin now more fuckwad.

🙏🔥

V4V 🫡

Especially since there are (or were?) people with many npubs who try to milk the introductions

Yup. It’s like nobody remembers the PEPSI wars. 😂

The pepsi wars 😂

Or the brand new npubs with a zap wallet setup who already know all the terminology and hash tags 🙄

I know of about 6 right now. Same accounts, different names.

Post loving, inspiring bullshit. But never interact. Just post.

Muted them all.

Times have definitely changed. Unfortunately some are here just for the zaps and they try to get them in disingenuous ways

Zap washing across their own accounts too.

“LOOK HOW MUCH I ZAP” accounts are sus. They wash between their own npubs.

Keep it real or beat it. We know who you are.

I do at least.

I remember one of those accounts. The alt account had a pic of the same person as the original account 🤣

Sometimes I just sit in the cornr of Primal’s walled garden and zap myself. But, I don’t brag about it.

Typical Primal user.

Damus users are all Based.

twitter muscle memory kicking in when you zap yourself (or someone else) by mistake and then try to take it back.

F U C K 😅

Edit. ✍️

😂

TITW

Same thing with the zapathons.

Those were different in the before times. I haven’t done one is a long time.

Early on they were fun TBH.

I don’t think so.

It was all a ploy to get those sats.

I literally only zapped people I knew & vetted. It was like playing tennis with friends.

You knew people irl on nostr then?

I know a lot of people. And I digitally vet like a champ too. I have a sixth sense for scammers.

You aren’t one. I know that.

Fair e nuff

Even back then. People would recycle memes and post 100+ in 30mins 🤣

Now what’s crazy is to see the zapathon hashtag on notes. On a monday morning 😂 there hasn’t been regular zapathons in a long time

The sats must flow, lol if people are careless with theirs, just point and laugh

Ok.

Zapping newbies is actually good. Just don't zap too much

Said the Newbie 👆

Fuck off. Do something useful.

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Zapping newbies right away is a poor approach. It encourages bad behavior. The right message should be: 'Welcome, now show us you're real. If you're not a bot or a scammer, you might earn a zap. Good luck!

Found one

Welcome.

Muted. 🔇

Agree

My brother was a newbie. he sent all zaps to me immediately 😆

Is your brother in the room with us right now?

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Yes, I'm explaining it to him. He is a musician, but there are some problems. One of them is the poor internet connection in Iran. Most of the time, he tries to upload a photo of his work, but he faces difficulties. Understanding open source and decentralization is very important for people who are used to working on centralized social media platforms. Some people are not patient and want to get things done quickly.

Anyway, I agree with you about your post. It is our duty to explain to the people around us before they join a space like Nostr. I try to share everything I’ve learned with people who join here.

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My brother's profile nostr:npub1dnem903jd88rwpe59cxeehnt3ej8tdcexmkjresrc4xpxvxw0s4sxeru43 , maybe you will become one of his art fans 😉

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I got a 2000+ zap from gigi for one of my first posts. If what you say is original, interesting or funny it deserves a zap. Fran got more than a million sats for her first post and Prince Philip zapped me 21 sats before he even made his first post.

I zap newbies for fun. Dumb as shit.

You made my point dipshit.

You did something. Now fuck off.

I made my point too. Moron.

Not a bad take

I know.

and don't forget to tell them GFY

I zap what I value & what I want to see more of.

Incentives matter.

This guy gets it. 👆💯

My guy knows it too 👆

This guy gets it 👆👆

Lol I’ve thought about this too. Too much dopamine then when their next posts don’t do anything they wonder what happened.

Still think it’s a net positive though and not “dumb as shit”.

Nope. A lot of the newbies are scam accounts looking for free zaps.

Proof of Value before any zapping. Fuck newbies. When I joined Nostr I was welcomed by confusion & people sending DM’s thinking they were posting (true story).

Figure it out. Provide value. Or fuck right off.

I appreciate this take.

Of course the newbie scam accounts is one thing.

When I onboard a friend, I want some stranger to zap them cause they can. Thoughts?

That’s different. Read my post again. I’m pro zaps. I’m anti newbie welcome zaps from a welcome committee bot or Nostr leader. That’s dumb as shit. Drives bad behavior.

Introducing your friend & then people zapping is not even close to what I meant.

Be better. Smarter.

Curious… are bots currently/potentially and issue on Nostr? A newb wanting to learn more….

real n00bs are the ones that cant be zapped

I mute 100% of non-zappable accounts.

Wanna play in this sandbox? Setup zaps. ⚡️

Then do something worthy of being zapped. Or you get muted as well.

Pretty much right to jail for a huge % of Nostr.

My goal is to reduce Nostr to about 100 maniacs zapping each other.

Just send ecash to n pubs mang

Speak English. I don’t understand you.

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Considering this approach!

It’s how we win.

Nostr should be invite only. Pay to play. Value driven. Or death. Quick death. Possibly painful.

100% MANIAC here

100 maniacs

Not 100% Maniac

We don’t need no crazy fucks smearing their shit on walls & talking to clouds.

Bring it down to about 50% maniac & we will consider you.

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This is true. The real ones should technically be non zappable until someone shows them. Except if they already know about lightning. Maybe from twitter?

Thats why I zap em. To tell them I cant.

Scam accounts have all the hash tags and marketing bells and whistles from the get go.

You can see a noob when their first introduction is without the # introduction.

Check out nostr:nprofile1qqspaa54uxh2e6jeft5a8h55r25vwp9lze06v4ff3jk0ty6lz5636hcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgjwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxqg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0c3jyek

He is a dormant account.

But the learning curve is obvious.

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Well said friend I am trying out different DeSo and so I new here myself a week or more now myself and I hate that some people followed me straight away as I mean it shows they hope I follow back and then we never meaningfully interact witch then makes any social media boring

Remove web3 & blockchain. It’s cleaner. Nostr is BTC only FREN.

Are you saying fartcoin zaps are not a thing here?

Poofs? 💨

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you are aware that Nostr is a protocol built on freedom of speech and interaction with decentrlization at the hart of it

yes it has integration with the best of the best bitcoin on lightning network

under the hood though it has nothing to do with bitcoin and there is no mention of it being for bitcoin on the official Nostr website

soninwill use noster how I like friend and if you don't like anything I do there is an option to mute so kindly do

I mean, free the zap ⚡️ all I’m saying

I am conflicted... I see your point of not spoiling and incentivise scammers. But I also see that Nostr now feels fresh, fun and exciting. Getting a taste of this as a newbie can also push them to jump with both feet into Nostr. It also reminds people to be kind to each other and in turn those newbies will be kind to the next batch of newbies. I assume that most newbies are honest. I just onboarded a family member yesterday and I literally said, don't worry the OGs will be friendly and help you around. He didn't even know what zaps were but with my help and others now he understands the concept and he's excited to spend time on Nostr. I don't want to keep Nostr only for myself, otherwise it will get boring fast 😅

But I definitely agree that people should embrace the value for value mentality in here, which after a few days as a newbie you will get it 💜🚀

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Lowest common denominator always ruins things. Curious newbies will find their way fine. I did.