Dearest Nostr eGirls - NostrFans - #Bluesky Refugees,

Once you accumulate enough Zaps that you'd be sad and/or pissed off to see your money disappear, it might be time to talk about the next phase in your Bitcoin journey.

While Bitcoin is money you can't fuck with, many of you are using Wallet of Satoshi or Alby. You can fuck with these wallets. These are great and easy to use wallets, especially because they support Lightning addresses for Zaps. However, these companies hold your Bitcoin for you. You don't control it. They do. If that company went away or suffered a loss, you would lose your Bitcoin!

History has taught us time and time again with Bitcoin that it's "not your keys, not your coins". This just means if you dont own the keys to your Bitcoin, if you don't custody it yourself, it's not yours, it's theirs.

To fix this, you can run these Lightning wallets on your phone with nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg or Phoenix Wallet (and soon nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5). These are special wallets where they run a "node" (a mini server) on your phone that you control. They're fully self custodial. These wallets do not have Lightning addresses, so you can't "Zap" to them.

Here's what I recommend. Use Wallet of Satoshi or Alby until you hit a certain amount and then send it from that wallet to your other wallet that runs the node on your phone that you control. That way large amounts of money are in your control. This is now money no one can fuck with.

And most importantly, be sure to write down and store the backup words in a safe location. You'll see what I mean. ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿป

If you have questions, just ask here or ask #plebchain

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Yes! Itโ€™s very sad that Bitcoiners are promoting custodial wallets because itโ€™s โ€œeasyโ€

Dimi, you know my take on this one and my mind will never change ๐Ÿ˜‰

Perfect is the enemy of good.

We have more users today than last week. Thatโ€™s good. They have a lot to learn, thatโ€™s also good. Itโ€™s not perfect, but itโ€™s a meaningful step in the right direction.

Nostr is frowning no matter of what!

*growing

I switched to ๐Ÿฅƒ expect more typos ๐Ÿคฃ

These new nostr users are becoming new bitcoin users, and the coupling between these two plus lightning has too much friction for fluid use. We canโ€™t scale these systems trustlessly, or even trust minimized, without better tooling & need - which may not be here for another year or more.

Phoenix also will add this soon tm ๐Ÿ˜‰

So you want me to tell these ladies to go build a server to host their own Lightning addresses? ๐Ÿคฃ Brother I love you, I do, but these are just things that aren't going to happen. Yet. It's called baby steps. We'll get there. Step one is sending from your non-custodial to self-custodial. ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿป

Yeah you can tell them to downaload phoenix, Breez and just post invoices like we did a few months ago or they can zap via few clicks

not about sending zaps.. still need custodial for receiving zaps tho.. and literally nobody is diving into lightning node without clear incentive.. it's a long learning process

Read my message again ๐Ÿ˜‰ you can post invoices like this ๐Ÿ‘‡

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that's not the same as a zap, noone is going to do that

brb, posting invoice of 69 sats to receive sats for my shitpost.. ?

come on now ๐Ÿ˜‚

Ok use nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg then! Phoenix also about to make it happen !

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make what happen

I started writing a book that takes from nocoiner to ride or die freak. I plan to include a sectiom on Robosats with Strike or Cash App and Phoenix. I started writing it on github.

That sounds fantastic and very useful. I can't wait to see it.

What about Breez?

You're right. This is another option to choose from. I had forgotten about it because I uninstalled it after testing it a long while back.

Also there are certain seucurity risks with browser wallets compared to apps.

Agree. Mutiny will be releasing an Android app soon if not already. For those on iOS, you'll have to use the PWA I guess.

Didn't know that. Good news!

Yeah android is now available for testing.

Also appreciate the shootout. Still pretty early, we've got a long ways to go to be normie friendly!

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What is the difference between mainnet and signant?

Signet is like testnet, just for testing the app with fake bitcoin.

So does that mean mainnet does use btc?

Yes

Damn bro . Your a Nostr MVP doing the lords work ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿฝbook marked this . Should probably mention I donโ€™t have any associations with EGirls ๐Ÿ˜‚

That's okay ๐Ÿซ‚ This guide is for everyone. I mentioned them as they're part of the latest wave. ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿป

I'm new ๐Ÿคช but i bought some bitcoins on my satoshi wallet and it's working good so far. I think im learning the ropes. ๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒป

Nice! The fees when you buy with Wallet of Satoshi may be high. Other options such as Strike are great. Fees are almost non-existent.

Is there strike atms?

And woah cowboy, yall made my phone buzzin! Hahaha

Haha. I sent some โšกโšกโšก

Strike is an app. https://strike.me

Thanks hun. This is all new feels like a maze ๐Ÿคช I have a guy at work helping me with the cryptos too

Treat WoS sats like cash you carry in your wallet. $10 is probably fine, $100 probably isnโ€™t, $1000 definitely isnโ€™t.

WoS is only a matter of time until rug or closing up shop, so minimize the time you expose yourself to their services, according to your comfortability.

Learn slow, but seriously - it takes some time & dedication. I recommend nostr:npub1fqn4fgzkk8nm2x3wd600n935c9tc7xgg9jhk5dfa0kuvrgvsyv7sgu536lโ€˜s book, Inventing Bitcoin, as a quick ELI5 for how bitcoin works. Lightning is one of Bitcoinโ€™s second layers and a different beast entirely - most people donโ€™t need to know the specifics besides if thereโ€™s no key, itโ€™s not yours. After you have an uncomfortable amount in WoS, withdrawing to Phoenix is a good idea. When it gets into the .01+ bitcoin range and you donโ€™t think you want to spend it anytime soon or urgently, storing it on the base layer without lightning involved is a good idea.

Ask questions!

It can get tricky

Awesome words of wisdom! Remember to bookmark newcomers ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿซ‚

Tgis is very important for anyone new to Bitcoin to read.

It may be a longish read but you tell me how much of your time your money is worth to you.

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Thanks for the info, do you know when that will be available on Zeus?

They announced it about a week ago. I don't see that functionality yet in the app though. I'd expect soon.

I use Zeus. Actually everyone in my family does. It's a great wallet.

Using Zeus to transfer from Alby to your own node all in the same app would be really powerful.

Cool I already use Zeus so Iโ€™ll go that route whenever the time is

They just released v0.7.7 on TestFlight. I think v0.8 will have the integrated node. Soonish I guess ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I will THANK YOU almost every single time you make these super helpful posts Derek!

Iโ€™ll never get tired. This is the way to help many us get to a good place holding #bitcoin !

Amen! any sats you don't wanna spend or LOSE... Take custody...

๐Ÿ˜Ž

Hear ye! Hear ye!

#bitcoin #plebchain #newbies #asknostr #LightningAddress #zap #BitcoinWallet #wallet #zapathon

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"Dearest" ๐Ÿฅน๐Ÿฅน๐Ÿฅน

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Do any self-custody wallets exist hat will both work on mobile for zaps and for zaps & sign-in on desktop?

Pimp

Nice post ๐Ÿ™

we're just starting out, and we don't yet have the perfect wallet that does it all.

We need that wallet : self-custody with a lightning address for zap, nostr with encrypted key integration, available on desktop and android/ios

I'm a little confused on Phoenix, I set it up and transfered in the initial 12, but 3000 go to channel and 8000 are available. Is the 3000 lost? Will I eventually be able to recover it?

They charge an initial fee to setup a channel. It's the cost of self custody. Channels need to be opened and there's an on-chain Bitcoin fee involved in every channel opening and closing. This is part of the fee structure. You won't have to do this every time.

https://acinq.co/blog/phoenix-splicing-update

This might be interesting for you as well

Thanks!

๋…ธ์ŠคํŠธ ํŒฌ๋ถ„๋“ค - #Bluesky์—์„œ ์ด์ฃผํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜

์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์–‘์˜ Zaps๋ฅผ ์ถ•์ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋ˆ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ ธ์„œ ์Šฌํ”„๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๋•Œ ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ ์—ฌ์ •์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณผ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๋์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ์€ ๊ฑด๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด Wallet of Satoshi๋‚˜ Alby๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ง€๊ฐ‘๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ฑด๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€๊ฐ‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์ง€๊ฐ‘๋“ค์ด๋ฉฐ, ํŠนํžˆ Zaps์šฉ Lightning ์ฃผ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ์„ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ œ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ œ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•ด๋‹น ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์†ํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ž…๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ์„ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!

์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ฐจ๋ก€ ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ์€ "๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฝ”์ธ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„ํŠธ์ฝ”์ธ์˜ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด, ์ฆ‰ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ @Mutiny๋‚˜ Phoenix Wallet (๊ณง @ZEUS๋„)์—์„œ ์ด Lightning ์ง€๊ฐ‘๋“ค์„ ํ•ธ๋“œํฐ์—์„œ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ œ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ํ•ธ๋“œํฐ ๋‚ด์— "๋…ธ๋“œ" (์†Œํ˜• ์„œ๋ฒ„)๋ฅผ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ง€๊ฐ‘๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ž์ฒด ๋ณด๊ด€ํ˜•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ง€๊ฐ‘๋“ค์€ Lightning ์ฃผ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— "Zap"์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์ฒœํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Wallet of Satoshi๋‚˜ Alby๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ํŠน์ • ๊ธˆ์•ก์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ, ํ•ด๋‹น ์ง€๊ฐ‘์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ œ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ํ•ธ๋“œํฐ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€๊ฐ‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”. ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํฐ ๊ธˆ์•ก์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ œ์–ดํ•˜์— ๋‘๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ด ๋ˆ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ฑด๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐฑ์—… ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ ์–ด๋‘๊ณ  ์•ˆ์ „ํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿป

์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ #plebchain์—์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์„ธ์š”.